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Old 11-05-2015, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Open your eyes it's increasing everywhere. What country has fewer millionaires and fewer 'poor' people? Sweden, the US liberal poster child for socialism? Guess again, they have more billionaires per capita than than the US does.

Sweden has seen the steepest increase in inequality over 15 years amongst the 34 OECD nations, with disparities rising at four times the pace of the United States, the think tank said.
Swedish equality fades away as rich get richer | Reuters

You're just going to have to give up your dream of Big Brother giving you more of what someone else earned and go earn it yourself.
This is true. What people don't understand is that the rich get richer under ANY form of government. And almost all government programs favor the rich. Obamacare is a prime example.
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Old 11-05-2015, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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yes. but the trend in increasing as it is in the US is not anywhere else in developed countries. if you are thinking saudi arabia, then yes.
but it is increasing in every first world nation


even the most '''socialistic''' nations the income gap is increasing

the fact is its NOT about taxes, or min wage, or medi coverage or anything else the fascist liberals want you to believe
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:07 PM
 
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Put your dem talking points aside and let's think about this logically.

How do you close any gap? Bring up the bottom or bring down the top. The democrats (and to a degree repubs too) have implemented policies that make it impossible to bring up the bottom. Millions of unskilled, uneducated immigrants are allowed (encouraged) into this country. This keeps the floor locked in place - 1) it pushes down low skill free market wages, and 2) the bottom is always recycling with millions of the worlds poorest people imported here.
So what is the alternative? It's what you seem to be advocating, which is bringing down the top. that's absolutely insane. That stunts economic growth, making the pie smaller for everyone.
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Old 11-06-2015, 03:23 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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So stop using their products and supporting their businesses. Start your own, build better products, pay better wages, keep your wages really small even though you are taking all of the risks, and then you too will be flying high with the unicorns.

cd :O)
Excellent advice!
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Old 11-06-2015, 03:28 AM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Talent and ambition inequality is real.
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Old 11-06-2015, 04:50 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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"Income inequality" is a Leftist gimmick, a meme, that is propaganda. It is intended to make people believe that some people are unequally advantaged in their ability to earn income. It presupposes that wealth is finite, and certain people have been able to acquire more than their "fair share." This argument is a canard, however, because wealth is not finite, but is created by activities such as investing (something that shows no favoritism), or producing something of value (entrepreneurship), thereby improving ones own standard of living through the returns on investment.

Entrepreneurs and investors take risks, but the rewards may be great, especially for those who are particularly savvy.

Everyone has an equal opportunity to create wealth for themselves.
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Old 11-06-2015, 04:55 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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There are enough charts and graphs and Wikipedia to explain the inequality in income. It is the highest since the 1920's
Do you see this in your own life, among friends and acquaintances, your children's lives?
I see it in the parelell universe that the super rich and the rest of us live. The number of super rich has grown as a percentage.
I see it in air travel. There were always first class but what we call coach is how most of us travelled in. It was comfortable and actually fun. Now I cannot get anything other than a middle seat if I want to fly to LA in Jet Blue. Of course I can PAY extra and get the aisle seat, pay to bypass security, pay to board first. So there is your class system.
This kind high class and low class exists in every aspect of life so the rich never have to deal with all the non- rich out there.
Most people need two incomes to have a decent life. Young people incur huge debts to finish college without which they cannot get a decent job.
Consequently the rich get tax breaks, corporations get laws favorable to them passed by buying pols, and the rest contend with poor roads, poor public transit, poor schools.
Do you belive this inequality is bad for democracy and our way of life? If so, What is the solution? Who, the Dems or GOP, would address it?
You cannot equalize intelligence, motivation, determination,....host of other acquired and learned factors or Luck.
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Old 11-06-2015, 05:14 AM
 
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There are enough charts and graphs and Wikipedia to explain the inequality in income. It is the highest since the 1920's
Do you see this in your own life, among friends and acquaintances, your children's lives?
I see it in the parelell universe that the super rich and the rest of us live. The number of super rich has grown as a percentage.
I see it in air travel. There were always first class but what we call coach is how most of us travelled in. It was comfortable and actually fun. Now I cannot get anything other than a middle seat if I want to fly to LA in Jet Blue. Of course I can PAY extra and get the aisle seat, pay to bypass security, pay to board first. So there is your class system.
This kind high class and low class exists in every aspect of life so the rich never have to deal with all the non- rich out there.
Most people need two incomes to have a decent life. Young people incur huge debts to finish college without which they cannot get a decent job.
Consequently the rich get tax breaks, corporations get laws favorable to them passed by buying pols, and the rest contend with poor roads, poor public transit, poor schools.
Do you belive this inequality is bad for democracy and our way of life? If so, What is the solution? Who, the Dems or GOP, would address it?
A) Barry and the dems took $800,000,000,000.....that's BILLION DOLLARS for infrastructure "shovel ready jobs". That money went to bailing out state pension funds in democratic cities.

B) There are inequalities in ALL aspects of life...appearance, intelligence, skill, talent, height, weight, etc. How do you make that "fair"?

Life is what you make of it...regardless of where you started. You only get one shot at doing it well.
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Old 11-06-2015, 08:51 PM
 
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No, its not real, they no middle class, there no bottom class. Pay goes from bottom to top, each get paid their worth, you start out poor at bottom and as you aquire skills the pay goes up. Its not a class, it what the market will support.
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Old 11-06-2015, 09:20 PM
 
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Talent and ambition inequality is real.
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