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Old 11-07-2015, 03:38 PM
 
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Why are we allowed to offend So many, just so we offend no one...

So NOT to offend, The Pledge and flag dropped from Veteran's Day service

Details at: [URL="http://www.capveterans.com/year2015/id108.html"]http://www.capveterans.com/year2015/id108.html[/URL]
This really isn't the whole story, but a private school can choose its own rules or do you want more government interference? The conservatives really need to make up their minds!!
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Old 11-07-2015, 03:44 PM
 
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This looks like a non story. Nobody would know or care if a chapel service somewhere had a flag and people saying the pledge. Seems like it was written to rile people up. I'm not even going to a chapel service on Veteran's Day and apparently this is about a service on NOV 10, which isn't Veteran's Day anyway.
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Old 11-07-2015, 03:47 PM
 
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This looks like a non story. Nobody would know or care if a chapel service somewhere had a flag and people saying the pledge. Seems like it was written to rile people up. I'm not even going to a chapel service on Veteran's Day.
Exactly. The way Fox is spinning this is as if the school was concerned about offending Muslims. This is a Christian school and many of the students are pacifists, so they needed to discuss the matter before making a decision.

This had absolutely nothing with hating America. What I find sad, but laughable, is that the same people who scream "Religious Freedom" when a county clerk wants to deny people their Constitutional Rights, are upset that a private school wants to honor some of its students' religious beliefs.

All of a sudden a Christian University is being called "liberal" because it embraces pacifism and didn't feel the flag and the Pledge of Allegiance belonged in a chapel since it's a place of worship and meditation.
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Old 11-07-2015, 03:53 PM
 
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This article does a better job explaining what is going on:

'Slap in the face!': University drops pledge, flag from Veteran's Day service | Fox News

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SPU is a Christian university of the Free Methodist tradition – but the student population includes a diverse group of denominations – including some that ascribe to pacifism.

“The organizers decided not to include the pledge of allegiance and the presentation of colors during the November 10th chapel, given that there are diversity of views on campus whether such elements should be part of a Christian worship service,” read a statement from the university to Q13 Fox.
War on Christianity.

[oh...wait]
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Old 11-07-2015, 03:55 PM
 
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This really isn't the whole story, but a private school can choose its own rules or do you want more government interference? The conservatives really need to make up their minds!!
What's your take on a business doing as it sees best?
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Old 11-07-2015, 05:43 PM
 
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This article does a better job explaining what is going on:

[url=http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/11/06/university-drops-pledge-flag-from-veterans-day-service.html?intcmp=hphz05]'Slap in the face!': University drops pledge, flag from Veteran's Day service | Fox News[/url]



War on Christianity.

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Oh, puleeze!! The only people fighting this so-called war are right-wing extremists.

How can this be a War on Christianity??? It's an Evangelical Univerisity for pity's sake!! Let's say a local church doesn't want soldiers in uniform saluting the flag and reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, why do you care? This was in their chapel and it is a private school.

So now Fox News wants to tell people how to pray in their own churches. I mean, if people are called anti-Christian and anti-American in a Christian University in the United States, I can't imagine how they'd feel if a religious Jew didn't want a 21 gun salute in a synagogue on the Sabbath!

I've met plenty of Christians who won't recite the Pledge of Allegiance and refer to the Bible (Matthew 5:34) So I guess they're bad Christians because they don't do what a cable news channel thinks is right?

Anyway, the school reversed its decision. Case closed.
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Old 11-07-2015, 05:59 PM
 
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What's your take on a business doing as it sees best?
Not relevant at all to this discussion. We're talking about a school chapel here. As I already wrote, the case is closed. (and the thread should be too) It was simply a concern about raising the American Flag inside a chapel and reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. It had nothing to do with "a business doing as it sees best."
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Old 11-07-2015, 06:04 PM
 
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Liberals need something to occupy theirselves since they have way too much time to dream up more lunacy to be offended.
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Old 11-07-2015, 06:07 PM
 
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Virtually everything liberals do offends me. So if they really want to stop being offensive, they need to stop doing just about everything they're doing.
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Old 11-07-2015, 06:14 PM
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Exactly. The way Fox is spinning this is as if the school was concerned about offending Muslims. This is a Christian school and many of the students are pacifists, so they needed to discuss the matter before making a decision.

This had absolutely nothing with hating America. What I find sad, but laughable, is that the same people who scream "Religious Freedom" when a county clerk wants to deny people their Constitutional Rights, are upset that a private school wants to honor some of its students' religious beliefs.

All of a sudden a Christian University is being called "liberal" because it embraces pacifism and didn't feel the flag and the Pledge of Allegiance belonged in a chapel since it's a place of worship and meditation.
Exactly. As a private Christian affiliated school, this is their prerogative. Being against the glorification of war is neither anti-Christian nor unpatriotic.

Actually, it's very Christian.
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