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Old 11-12-2015, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Nope. There's a record of what I replied with....

Anyone can follow my replies...

But it's the boomers that will bankrupt this country unless we reform social security and Medicare. Time to tell my mom and dad the bad news...
Raise FICA and tell Congress to stop borrowing from the Trust Fund.
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:48 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Raise FICA and tell Congress to stop borrowing from the Trust Fund.
Nope. They should have planned better, those boomers. Sorry mom and dad.
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:50 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Nope. There's a record of what I replied with....

Anyone can follow my replies...
Exactly. That's how we all know you've posted nothing of the kind.
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Nope. They should have planned better, those boomers. Sorry mom and dad.
FICA was raised every 2-3 years up until 1990 when it stopped.
You cannot expand a program and not increase its funding.

What will happen is means testing. They will raise the cap and you'll still pay but may not get back anything.

You will be the one that has no SS when you turn 67. Hope you have doubled up on your savings.
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Old 11-12-2015, 12:38 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Exactly. That's how we all know you've posted nothing of the kind.
Lol. Why are you so dishonest? Seriously? It's okay to be wrong....
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Old 11-12-2015, 12:39 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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FICA was raised every 2-3 years up until 1990 when it stopped.
You cannot expand a program and not increase its funding.

What will happen is means testing. They will raise the cap and you'll still pay but may not get back anything.

You will be the one that has no SS when you turn 67. Hope you have doubled up on your savings.
Should raise the age on social security, people are living and working longer. Medicare, simply put, old folks are expensive to take care of and there's a lot of people becoming old soon.
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Old 11-12-2015, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Should raise the age on social security, people are living and working longer. Medicare, simply put, old folks are expensive to take care of and there's a lot of people becoming old soon.
Height of the baby boom was 1957. They won't be 65 for another 7 years so it's still an upward curve.

But the millennials are a larger group than the boomers so you'd think the FICA revenue would pick up.
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Old 11-12-2015, 01:15 PM
 
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Height of the baby boom was 1957. They won't be 65 for another 7 years so it's still an upward curve.
The peak yes.

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But the millennials are a larger group than the boomers so you'd think the FICA revenue would pick up.
It does but old folks are expensive to provide healthcare to, along with mentally ill and veterans. Just like with the looming pension crisis, we didn't prepare for them old folks. Yes we robbed Peter to pay Paul, which the boomers went along with, but we still underestimated how much it would cost for live out the part of ones life.

I'm not sure which candidate has the cajoles to go up against AARP.
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Old 11-12-2015, 01:21 PM
 
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The peak yes.



It does but old folks are expensive to provide healthcare to, along with mentally ill and veterans. Just like with the looming pension crisis, we didn't prepare for them old folks. Yes we robbed Peter to pay Paul, which the boomers went along with, but we still underestimated how much it would cost for live out the part of ones life.

I'm not sure which candidate has the cajoles to go up against AARP.
While Europe attacked the cost of health care we in the US attacked the insurance.
Insurance isn't the problem..the rising cost is the problem.

And medicare isn't free once you hit 65. You still have to pay premiums and they just upped the premiums for anyone starting medicare next year.

SS is already up to 67 as FRA. How many can realistically work longer ?

I agree that the US has a health care problem. But attacking the insurance won't solve it.
Bring the costs down and insurance will follow.

I have an aunt and uncle that retired and emigrated to Ireland.
They have their SS and gave up medicare. Costs about $700/year for insurance for them.
Both are over 70. Age is not a consideration for health insurance over there.
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Old 11-12-2015, 01:31 PM
 
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Yes. Enabling laziness and dependence is a bad thing.


Call me heartless, but I would rather see the lazy freeloaders go to debtor's prison or die from their ailments than have to pay for their healthcare on top of my OWN healthcare! And I am NOT ashamed to say it!
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