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Your BS detector is clearly defective.. EMTALA covers acute emergency care and if you think it was ever free you have been misled, the costs of providing emergency care were just shifted to health care consumers by increased costs. And ER care does not treat people with chronic diseases like diabetes or heart conditions, they merely stabilize the patient and show them to the door. And most states without expanded medicaid are do not offer any health coverage to non-disabled, non-elderly childless adults. The Coverage Gap: Uninsured Poor Adults in States that Do Not Expand Medicaid
Like it or not a majority of people in this country support the concept of providing healthcare to people who can't afford it.
Acute care is the general reason people visit the doctor in the vast majority of cases.
ER does treat chronic diseases, unless the last 13 years of my job has been a pipe dream. If not we see people with COPD, diabetes, renal disease, and the old lady who's had a cough for the last 3 days but had nothing better to do at 1am (no, not joking).
What will happen is this:
They come into the ER to be treated by something that could have been preventable (but prevention is hard and for suckers).
They get stabilized and treated. (free stuff yo!)
They get discharge paperwork setting them up to see someone to monitor their progress and keep them out of the ER. (that means skipping what they want to do.. screw that)
They inevitably don't go or stop going soon after. (I got better things to do)
<restart tree at the top>
I'm not even kidding. We have this one guy who got set up on medicaid, doesn't see his doctor, does't take his medicine, doesn't use his CPAP, and doesn't stick to his care plan or diet. What he does do is shove food in his mouth, maintain his narcotics, and magically is on medicaid but can afford a 1-2 pack a day smoking habit. Nice guy, but why should society keep his tab?
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You do realize plenty of people getting medicaid are also working Americans like everyone else. You seem to be assuming that everyone on medicaid don't work....
<5 million of the estimated 45 million people receiving welfare of any kind are working full time. So 1 of 9 people need a helping hand. 8 of 9 people need to buck up, put their big boy pants on, and get to work.
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So basically those who should have access to healthcare are only those that can afford it. Got it.
Free HC isn't a fix. Ever. People should repay their debt to society by working for the state or the taxpayers individually.
<5 million of the estimated 45 million people receiving welfare of any kind are working full time. So 1 of 9 people need a helping hand. 8 of 9 people need to buck up, put their big boy pants on, and get to work.
Free HC isn't a fix. Ever. People should repay their debt to society by working for the state or the taxpayers individually.
Do you have a link that backs up your 5 million claim? Also, welfare of any kind is extremely broad and vague because not all welfare is the same.
I'm an adult, thanks. And recognize the benefits that all society has in helping the poor stay out of the ER room.
You, get a clue, and try growing a heart.
Being asked to pay for those other people's health insurance in the form of higher and higher premiums in order to cover their Medicaid and their subsidies put many in the category of no longer being able to afford their health insurance. So now you have a new group of uninsured. Will you be happy to pay their bills when they end up in the ER, uninsured and unable to pay?
Providing healthcare to the poor was always a moral imperative.
Doing so by forcing tax slavery is immoral. If providing health care to the poor is morally desirable, fund it voluntarily. Don't impose forced slavery to do so. Slavery is immoral.
A fellow I know, in his 50's, worked at a car dealership until a freak, unexplained disease required amputation of his legs.
He can't work, and all of the "market health care" types in our state have all but eliminated Medicaid. What sort of solution would you propose for people like him? Suicide?
Slavery , at least in this country, involved being kept in chains in a shed behind someone's house, and being forced at the point of a gun to work from sun-up to sun-down. And having your children doomed to the same fate, all because of their race and genetics.
The fact that you equate "increasing my taxes" to "enslaving me" suggests that, regardless of your age, you have learned very little in your life.
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And recognize the benefits that all society has in helping the poor stay out of the ER room. 
