There are no such thing as socially liberal leftists. (Rush Limbaugh, unemployment, Israel)
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Marriage has not always been a LEGAL arrangement as it is now. Once you just shacked up and called yourself married unless you were royalty or of the landed class. The vast majority of human culture marriage was not a legal contract. You didn't go to city hall and file a marriage certificate. Even in the US there was not a legal requirement for a filed license of any type to be considered married.
Yup, until those darn Democrats figured out how to profit from it.
Marriage has not always been a LEGAL arrangement as it is now. Once you just shacked up and called yourself married unless you were royalty or of the landed class. The vast majority of human culture marriage was not a legal contract. You didn't go to city hall and file a marriage certificate. Even in the US there was not a legal requirement for a filed license of any type to be considered married.
Marriage has been the LEGAL preference of a man and woman for thousands of years. This is a fact.
There are no such thing as socially liberal leftists.
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Originally Posted by hakkarin
So can we please stop buying into this horsecrap that there is any such thing as a economically statist but socially liberal people? They simply don't exist.
Why I'm not a member of the Democratic Party is that there are many that are considered liberal that want big government and and less personal freedoms. I'm a liberal Republican and am economically conservative and very liberal when it comes to social issues.
But wait! What about stuff like gay marriage? Progressives support that and that's pretty liberal right?
Nope. Social liberalism is basically not making the state tell people what to do. A person that honors the right of a gay person to look for priests to marry it, and the right of said priest to not marry a gay if he doesn't want to, is socially liberal. Progressives however only care about the right of the gay, and not the rights of anybody who doesn't like them. This means that they merely take the nonsense into the other direction, and are thus not actually socially liberal.
So can we please stop buying into this horsecrap that there is any such thing as a economically statist but socially liberal people? They simply don't exist.
What a bunch of foolish nonsense.
I call this B. S.
People who do not like gay people are not being forced into same sex marriages. They are not forced into being gay or engage in homosexual acts. You are not forced to invite gay people into your home.
This "victim card" being played by anti-gay conservatives doesn't fool anyone.
Unprejudiced, tolerant and fair minded people recognized that as a minority gay folks faced bigotry and discrimination in many spheres of society. Gay people were forbidden to apply for many jobs, enter schools, get security clearances, received credit and financial services, get housing in the place of their choice, etc. Gay folks for generations were stigmatized as a criminal class ...and guess what??? ... it was "Social Conservatives" that perpetuated that bigoted nonsense for decades. It was the "Social Liberals" that stood up on behalf of the marginalized and persecuted gay community.
Why I'm not a member of the Democratic Party is that there are many that are considered liberal that want big government and and less personal freedoms. I'm a liberal Republican and am economically conservative and very liberal when it comes to social issues.
Why don't you consider yourself a libertarian? Your policy viewpoint mirrors many of my libertarian friends' stances.
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There are no such thing as socially liberal leftists.
