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You Progs gave it your best shot. Remember the large soda ban in NYC that got over turned? What about all the Liberal cities where they aren't allowed to cook with salt or even have a shaker on the table? Yeah you forgot about that didn't you. Lefties are ONLY for what THEY want and look to ban everything else. Your feelings are hurt by what someone said? BAN THAT LANGUAGE!
Oh, for heavens sake!
One former mayor of NYC makes a dumb suggestion and suddenly it is the centerpiece of liberal democratic ideology ???
SHEESH!
Answer me this: if all liberals and progressives were in favor of this why wasn't it passed in even more liberal cities and towns like Boston, LA, Chicago, Philadelphia, Berkeley, Washington, Seattle, Ann Arbor, etc.
irrelevant. They will ALWAYS hold immorality up as the moral, that's a no brainer. What I'm talking about is salt, sugar, things they find offensive, etc. They surely don't believe in "live and let live".
Translation: it's only ok when right-wingers want things banned.
One former mayor of NYC makes a dumb suggestion and suddenly it is the centerpiece of liberal democratic ideology ???
SHEESH!
Answer me this: if all liberals and progressives were in favor of this why wasn't it passed in even more liberal cities and towns like Boston, LA, Chicago, Philadelphia, Berkeley, Washington, Seattle, Ann Arbor, etc.
Stop making up stupid stuff, okay?
OK, you asked for it:
Stuff Liberals have banned or tried to ban:
Junk food in schools, Big gulps in NY city
Regulating cow farts
Plastic bags
Horse drawn carriages
Banning tobacco products from the military
Banning Bossy
Banning flights to Israel
Guns
American flag t-shirts
Rush Limbaugh
First, I would like to ask you to stop arguing about gay marriage. You have derailed the thread enough with it as is. Just stop.
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Originally Posted by Clark Park
Unprejudiced, tolerant and fair minded people recognized that as a minority gay folks faced bigotry and discrimination in many spheres of society. Gay people were forbidden to apply for many jobs, enter schools, get security clearances, received credit and financial services, get housing in the place of their choice, etc. Gay folks for generations were stigmatized as a criminal class ...and guess what??? ... it was "Social Conservatives" that perpetuated that bigoted nonsense for decades. It was the "Social Liberals" that stood up on behalf of the marginalized and persecuted gay community.
And by "standing up", you mean creating your so called anti-discrimination laws. The fact of the matter is nobody is entitled to a job or being allowed to be a member of somebody's club. Social liberalism is the idea that people are free from government interventionism in their social lives. That means gays can marry. That means the KKK won't have to accept gays into their club. Social liberalism is not the idea that holier than you progressives can't to pick and choose which social groups can do as they please and which can't.
Do you I think the likes of the Westboro Baptist Church are good people? No. Does this warrant turning gays or other minorities into so called "protected social classes"? No.
The idea of protected social classes has NOTHING to do with TRUE social liberalism. Anybody who believes that somebody should be regarded as more important in the eyes of the law even though all parties involved were born and raised in the country in question is a self-serving parasite.
Progressives are socially Authoritarian. If they don't like what you are doing they want it banned.
The same can be said about conservatives. Look at the war on (some) drugs or the opposition to homosexual marriage. If it doesn't fit in their world view the conservatives oppose.
I am a libertarian. If it does no harm to others I have no basis for opposition. I may not like it but I have no right to tell another adult citizen how they should live their life. Whatever happened to "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness"?
Junk food in schools, Big gulps in NY city
Regulating cow farts
Plastic bags
Horse drawn carriages
Banning tobacco products from the military
Banning Bossy
Banning flights to Israel
Guns
American flag t-shirts
Rush Limbaugh
You really need to start paying attention.
Some of those things sound like well intentioned but impractical suggestions.
First, I want to insist you cite your sources.
Second, which of those things were actually implemented?
Third, there are people out there - conservative, moderate, and liberal - that have floated ideas that went over like a lead balloon. These suggestions never gathered steam and were never written in the platform of any political party.
If I wanted to accuse conservatives of stupid ideas the list would include:
Forcing Jews to convert to Christianity (Michelle Bachmann)
Executing all gay people
Forcing everyone to own a gun
Deporting all Muslims out of the US
Banning all literature on LGBT topics
Banning all pornography
Abolishing the Food & Drug Administration
Abolishing Unemployment Compensation
Banning Labor Unions and collective bargaining
Taking away citizenship rights of Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims, and all non-Christians
First, I would like to ask you to stop arguing about gay marriage. You have derailed the thread enough with it as is. Just stop.
And by "standing up", you mean creating your so called anti-discrimination laws. The fact of the matter is nobody is entitled to a job or being allowed to be a member of somebody's club. Social liberalism is the idea that people are free from government interventionism in their social lives. That means gays can marry. That means the KKK won't have to accept gays into their club. Social liberalism is not the idea that holier than you progressives can't to pick and choose which social groups can do as they please and which can't.
Do you I think the likes of the Westboro Baptist Church are good people? No. Does this warrant turning gays or other minorities into so called "protected social classes"? No.
The idea of protected social classes has NOTHING to do with TRUE social liberalism. Anybody who believes that somebody should be regarded as more important in the eyes of the law even though all parties involved were born and raised in the country in question is a self-serving parasite.
The inane stupidity of this post is so fatuous I cannot dignify it with a response.
However I would like to invite you to open your eyes and walk out of the gloom and darkness of the homophobic hatred, prejudice, and bigotry ... and into the warm sunshine of tolerance and respect.
Why don't you consider yourself a libertarian? Your policy viewpoint mirrors many of my libertarian friends' stances.
I don't consider myself a Libertarian because when I run for state office I would have a very small chance at winning an election when the Republican Party and Democratic Party dominate the election. I also don't agree with the Libertarian stance on the death penalty in which I support. If the Libertarian Party were to gain ground by winning state elections I would definitely consider changing my political party. My goal is to change the face of the Republican Party into what it use to stand for which is liberty, equality and freedom. In my opinion the Republican Party has become way to conservative in which is preventing economic growth and individuals from exercising certain rights such as the right to marry anyone they please without the government getting in the way.
The same can be said about conservatives. Look at the war on (some) drugs or the opposition to homosexual marriage. If it doesn't fit in their world view the conservatives oppose.
I am a libertarian. If it does no harm to others I have no basis for opposition. I may not like it but I have no right to tell another adult citizen how they should live their life. Whatever happened to "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness"?
Amen! There are many who claim to be so-called conservatives and for smaller government.... until they're not. They too can be just as guilty as progressives when it comes to picking and choosing what to ban, or what they deem is good or not good for you. In other words, there are statists, and wanna be tyrants on both sides of the aisle. Your second statement.... I echo that sentiment 1,000%!!!
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They too can be just as guilty as progressives when it comes to picking and choosing what to ban, or what they deem is good or not good for you. In other words, there are statists, and wanna be tyrants on both sides of the aisle. Your second statement.... I echo that sentiment 1,000%!!!
