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Old 11-19-2015, 11:41 AM
 
Location: When you take flak it means you are on target
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I am really sick of seeing these young male COWARDS or terrorist infiltrators posing as "refugees" and wanting a free ride by the western infadels.

I say give every man and woman from age 15-60 a rifle and send them back to fight and die for their own country. Why should we allow our enemies into OUR home?

Go home, fight or die or live under tyranny.

Trust me, nobody is going to allow American refugees into their countries should something happen here. Americans will hold their own, because we have no choice and no friends in the world.

I don't think anyone in govt anyway, has had the guts to come right out and say this. But really, why should we have to pay our tax dollars to protect people who hate our way of life. It's nuts.

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Old 11-19-2015, 11:59 AM
 
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I don't think anyone in govt anyway, has had the guts to come right out and say this.
well no, it's not about guts. it's just a stupid plan, regardless of whether you support refugees coming to the US or not.
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Old 11-19-2015, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Modern war is not conventional, we are fighting an Ideology. The only people can win the war in middle east are the Muslims.

Here is a very interesting article

Here's Why These Muslims Are Refusing To Criticize ISIS

"There's a fine line between apologizing for ISIS and proactively contradicting false narratives about Islam," said Qureshi, who serves on the board of directors at several faith-based organizations. "We are at a point in time where we have to bear the burden of wide-scale fear and misinformation about our faith and the cultures of many of the people who practice it … I quite literally view it as our jihad."

Here's Why These Muslims Are Refusing To Criticize ISIS

Perhaps working with these so called moderate Muslims is the answer, just can't **** them all. These Muslims need to know that their real enemy is the radicals, not the western world.
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Old 11-19-2015, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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well no, it's not about guts. it's just a stupid plan, regardless of whether you support refugees coming to the US or not.
You do not have to insult the other fellow who posted. I believe the U.S. did train counter-ISIS troops but those efforts failed as they disbanded shortly after completing their training.

On the other hand, in another thread here which I can link, A Polish Gov't official said similar, to use able bodied males to form an anti-ISIS force.
//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...ugee-army.html
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Old 11-19-2015, 12:13 PM
 
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You are kind of saying what I did the other day.

You create maybe a safe zone in Syria for them, once they are back there give them a gun and point them to the enemy.
Why do these cowards skip out on their families like baby daddies failing to defend both their families and country?

Oh, by the way the reasons they do so is to abandon the family they had to grow Radical Islam and Sharia in America and other Western societies.
Some plot terror. But don't bet OUR lives on that.
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Old 11-19-2015, 12:21 PM
 
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You do not have to insult the other fellow who posted.
Calling him stupid would've been an insult. Calling his plan stupid, not so much.

Regardless, the plan is stupid. Most of the plans I've seen on city-data that involve sending refugees back to fight for their countries have been stupid.


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I believe the U.S. did train counter-ISIS troops but those efforts failed as they disbanded shortly after completing their training.
Right, so the United States enacted a plan and it failed. But city-data randos think that they are smarter than the U.S. gov't, which is a textbook example of the dunning-kruger effect.

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On the other hand, in another thread here which I can link, A Polish Gov't official said similar, to use able bodied males to form an anti-ISIS force.
//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...ugee-army.html
Yes, which was also a stupid plan. I'm still waiting on a coherent answer to the questions I posed in that thread.
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Old 11-19-2015, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Calling him stupid would've been an insult. Calling his plan stupid, not so much.

Regardless, the plan is stupid. Most of the plans I've seen on city-data that involve sending refugees back to fight for their countries have been stupid.




Right, so the United States enacted a plan and it failed. But city-data randos think that they are smarter than the U.S. gov't, which is a textbook example of the dunning-kruger effect.



Yes, which was also a stupid plan. I'm still waiting on a coherent answer to the questions I posed in that thread.

Insult a person's view you insult the person. Just disagreeing is acceptable.


No one here has the data to provide any type of concrete response to what you ask for and many other questions. Neither do you and no one should cater to you. This section is more like a town hall meeting. Rowdy at times too.
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Old 11-19-2015, 12:55 PM
 
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I am really sick of seeing these young male COWARDS or terrorist infiltrators posing as "refugees" and wanting a free ride by the western infadels.

I say give every man and woman from age 15-60 a rifle and send them back to fight and die for their own country. Why should we allow our enemies into OUR home?

Go home, fight or die or live under tyranny.

Trust me, nobody is going to allow American refugees into their countries should something happen here. Americans will hold their own, because we have no choice and no friends in the world.

I don't think anyone in govt anyway, has had the guts to come right out and say this. But really, why should we have to pay our tax dollars to protect people who hate our way of life. It's nuts.
15-60, really?

Maybe have the guts to not force your silly Call of Duty fantasies on children fleeing a brutal war.
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Old 11-19-2015, 01:24 PM
 
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I love how so many of you have enjoyed us poking around in other nation's affairs, but now you're shocked at the blowback.
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Old 11-19-2015, 02:14 PM
 
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I love how so many of you have enjoyed us poking around in other nation's affairs, but now you're shocked at the blowback.
Our only failure was to not do what we could have like we did in Japan and Germany. Those worked out just fine.
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