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Old 11-13-2015, 08:52 AM
 
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Social Secuirty Admin gets billions of dollars from the paychecks of illegals every year that will never be paid back to them in benefits, the money is used to prop up the system.
Good, it can go towards their enormous social costs that is costing the American taxpayer dearly in higher taxes.
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Old 11-13-2015, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Good, it can go towards their enormous social costs that is costing the American taxpayer dearly in higher taxes.
That cost is disputed in this study.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:02 AM
 
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That cost is disputed in this study.
Your study is wrong. There are plenty of them that contradict it. They've been posted in here many times. Common sense and logic would tell you that flooding a country with the poor, illiterate and unskilled from other countries is not a bonus for most of the citizens of that country. Besides, what about the rule of law or doesn't that mean anything? That's really the only argument that we anti-illegals need and you can't counter that, can you?
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:31 AM
 
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Border fence will never happen...would cost $100billion and would take 25 years to build.

Sending back 11 million people...never happen, cost, decimate federal court system, would have to hire 1million federal agents and it would still take 15 years.

Amnesty...never again.

Best and only solution is too invest in methods of and tactics of preventing the employment of illegals, while proividing realistic visa program for industries dependent on migrant workers.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Your study is wrong. There are plenty of them that contradict it. They've been posted in here many times. Common sense and logic would tell you that flooding a country with the poor, illiterate and unskilled from other countries is not a bonus for most of the citizens of that country. Besides, what about the rule of law or doesn't that mean anything? That's really the only argument that we anti-illegals need and you can't counter that, can you?
First, it's not my study. It's a university study.

Second, "common sense and logic," as well as conventional wisdom is often wrong. What's amusing about that line of reasoning is that in the late 19th Century and early 20th Century, this country was flooded with poor, illiterate and unskilled from other countries -- except that those people were white and from Europe. Not only were those people not a drain on the nation but the country prosper from them.

Third, as for "the rule of law," that buys into Trumps contention that immigrants are rapists and murders, which they overwhelmingly are not.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:15 AM
 
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Or Republican "job creators" could, I don't know... It's a crazy concept, but maybe they could quite hiring illegal immigrants at their businesses?
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Old 11-13-2015, 11:17 AM
 
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When illegal aliens get a path to stay here but don't get voter rights I guess Democrats will no longer be interested to keep them here.
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Old 11-13-2015, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Just provide a decent plan other than hoarding and deporting, archiac Operation We-Tback, then non-Trump fans (the majority by the way) might be in favor of it. But with the Gestapo /SS Troop plan that Trump has - most Americans won't go along with. Neither will Paul Ryan, Speaker of the House and Republican leader.
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Old 11-13-2015, 12:06 PM
 
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Elian Gonzalez reviewed Trumps plan and gave it a thumbs down.
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Old 11-13-2015, 02:17 PM
 
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Border fence will never happen...would cost $100billion and would take 25 years to build.

Sending back 11 million people...never happen, cost, decimate federal court system, would have to hire 1million federal agents and it would still take 15 years.

Amnesty...never again.

Best and only solution is too invest in methods of and tactics of preventing the employment of illegals, while proividing realistic visa program for industries dependent on migrant workers.
Congress already approved 700 miles of double-layered wall along the most porous areas of our southern border. It isn't just migrants looking for work that are getting in through our southern border but criminals, terrorists and drug dealers. They aren't looking for jobs. As for those looking for economic opportunity on the backs of Americans citizens, yes going after the employers would help a lot but they are also coming for benefits and birthright citizenship for their kids. Remove all of these incentives. They won't need to be "sent back". They'll leave on their own.

Just what industries need migrant workers that can't be filled by an American worker? We already have unlimited visas for agricultural workers. So just what industries are you referring to?

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