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Old 11-16-2015, 07:33 AM
 
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Obama failed the Iraq people and USA by not listening to his expert panels of Generals etc. He failed. He made his decision. Every other president has done forces of agreements with countrys, many we are enemys with to ensure stability..
Obama failed in what was best for IRAQ and USA over there. He failed, no one else.
The SOF agreement was set up to be renegotiated in 2011. Obama, no one else, failed to keep stability there by appeasing liberals and their agenda.
Obama owns this mess and the history books will write it that way.
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Old 11-16-2015, 07:34 AM
 
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Republicans, for the most part, were firmly behind President Bush, until he was out of office. Hillary & Barack, are Corporate Democrats, which makes them about as much left, as Romney.

Remember I voted for Nixon, Reagan and GWBush.

And from my previous post
"If there was something (in this conversation) to criticize the current president, we would".

We are talking about US troops being pulled out of Iraq, nothing else.
You claimed Obama did, I proved that the outcome was determined before he entered office.



These are the presidents fault?
All these things will magically go away with someone else in the White House?




Nobody has been given amnesty.
You can blame the repubs & dems in congress for turning immigration reform into a political football.



There is a lot to criticize Obama over, but just not the usual whine list.
And lumping things that are not part of this conversation and throwing in issues that a American president cannot control is completely expected.
When you are losing, it's time for a Hail Mary........

The price of gas is up - it's Obama's fault.
The price of gas is down - Crickets
The stock market is tanking - It's Obama's fault.
The stock market has record highs - Crickets
Unemployment Up - Obama's fault
Unemployment down - Crickets
I find that very hard to believe.

"there is alot to criticize over, just not the usual whine list?" lol Like what? You haven't voiced on single criticism yet of Obama?

bombing of libya, disposing of gaddafi, benghazi, leaving Iraq and the blitzkrieg spread of ISIS right afterward , consistently downplaying the rise of the Islamic State.while Syrians and Christians and so many are tortured and killed , women enslaved in Iraq and syria ,homosexuals thrown from roofs, people routinely decapitated and tortured on youtube by ISIS

The weakest economic recovery since the Great Depression, the number of people receiving food stamps in record numbers. no real changes to the hopelessness of our inner cities and massive racial division from trayvon martin to ferguson and baltimore .

I know the usual whine list, but hey the stock market is up and the rich are getting richer!

In europe even liberal and left wing countries from scandinavia to switzerland are electing center right parties all over their stance over immigration and protecting borders, even left wing parties are turning against multiculturalism. In America it's just the same old left.
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Old 11-16-2015, 07:42 AM
 
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Actions speak louder than words. Obama supports radical Islam.
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Old 11-16-2015, 07:47 AM
 
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This idiot is only upset that the world is catching on that his beloved Islam is what it is a hate filled war like group of crazy nuts that are made up of two types, those who will kill in the name of Islam and those who say they are not but quietly support the killing.
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Old 11-16-2015, 07:49 AM
 
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He mixed up his heart with his brain. The guy is a traitor.
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Old 11-16-2015, 07:56 AM
 
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Yeah - the whole use of vague language is troublesome.

He could be heartbroken for a number of reasons. Outrageous could not necessarily be negative.

Text...
Good evening, everybody. I just want to make a few brief comments about the attacks across Paris tonight. Once again, we’ve seen an outrageous attempt to terrorize innocent civilians. This is an attack not just on Paris, it’s an attack not just on the people of France, but this is an attack on all of humanity and the universal values that we share.

We stand prepared and ready to provide whatever assistance that the government and the people of France need to respond. France is our oldest ally. The French people have stood shoulder to shoulder with the United States time and again. And we want to be very clear that we stand together with them in the fight against terrorism and extremism.

Paris itself represents the timeless values of human progress. Those who think that they can terrorize the people of France or the values that they stand for are wrong. The American people draw strength from the French people’s commitment to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness. We are reminded in this time of tragedy that the bonds of liberté and égalité and fraternité are not only values that the French people care so deeply about, but they are values that we share. And those values are going to endure far beyond any act of terrorism or the hateful vision of those who perpetrated the crimes this evening.

We’re going to do whatever it takes to work with the French people and with nations around the world to bring these terrorists to justice, and to go after any terrorist networks that go after our people.

We don’t yet know all the details of what has happened. We have been in contact with French officials to communicate our deepest condolences to the families of those who have been killed, to offer our prayers and thoughts to those who have been wounded. We have offered our full support to them. The situation is still unfolding. I’ve chosen not to call President Hollande at this time, because my expectation is that he’s very busy at the moment. I actually, by coincidence, was talking to him earlier today in preparation for the G20 meeting. But I am confident that I’ll be in direct communications with him in the next few days, and we’ll be coordinating in any ways that they think are helpful in the investigation of what’s happened.

This is a heartbreaking situation. And obviously those of us here in the United States know what it’s like. We’ve gone through these kinds of episodes ourselves. And whenever these kinds of attacks happened, we’ve always been able to count on the French people to stand with us. They have been an extraordinary counterterrorism partner, and we intend to be there with them in that same fashion.

I’m sure that in the days ahead we’ll learn more about exactly what happened, and my teams will make sure that we are in communication with the press to provide you accurate information. I don’t want to speculate at this point in terms of who was responsible for this. It appears that there may still be live activity and dangers that are taking place as we speak. And so until we know from French officials that the situation is under control, and we have for more information about it, I don’t want to speculate.
This is definitely not describing the axis of evil...

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Also - this is the second event in France this year. Back in January, 12 people were killed. What did he say then?
I strongly condemn the horrific shooting at the offices of Charlie Hebdo magazine in Paris that has reportedly killed 12 people. Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims of this terrorist attack and the people of France at this difficult time.

France is America’s oldest ally, and has stood shoulder to shoulder with the United States in the fight against terrorists who threaten our shared security and the world. Time and again, the French people have stood up for the universal values that generations of our people have defended.

France, and the great city of Paris where this outrageous attack took place, offer the world a timeless example that will endure well beyond the hateful vision of these killers.
These sentiments seem similar to a generic Hallmark card.
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Old 11-16-2015, 07:57 AM
 
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Nazism was a religion and so is Islam. We recognized the fact that Nazism had to be stomped out and we did it. We went through German society top to bottom and rooted out the radical Nazis and re educated the milder ones who joined the party/religion because their job depended on it ect. We have to occupy the Mid East and end Islam top to bottom and either convert them to Christianity or Atheism...anything but Muslim.
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Old 11-16-2015, 08:08 AM
 
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Obama failed the Iraq people and USA by not listening to his expert panels of Generals etc. He failed. He made his decision. Every other president has done forces of agreements with countrys, many we are enemys with to ensure stability..
Obama failed in what was best for IRAQ and USA over there. He failed, no one else.
The SOF agreement was set up to be renegotiated in 2011. Obama, no one else, failed to keep stability there by appeasing liberals and their agenda.
Obama owns this mess and the history books will write it that way.
In 2004, the iraqis wanted us to leave - USATODAY.com - Poll: Iraqis out of patience

In 2006, the iraqis wanted us to leave - Most Iraqis Favor Immediate U.S. Pullout, Polls Show

In 2007, the iraqis wanted us to leave - BBC NEWS | Middle East | Most people 'want Iraq pull-out'

In 2008, the iraqis wanted us to leave - Iraqi Public Opinion on the Presence of US Troops - World Public Opinion

In 2010, the iraqis wanted us to leave - Iraqi Prime Minister Says U.S. Forces Must Leave On Time - WSJ

In 2011, the iraqis wanted us to leave - U.S. Troops Are Leaving Because Iraq Doesn't Want Them There - The Atlantic

Obama wanted to leave troops in iraq, but iraqis refused - Obama wanted to keep 10,000 troops in Iraq, ABC's Raddatz claims | PunditFact

How did you miss all this?
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Old 11-16-2015, 08:10 AM
 
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In 2004, the iraqis wanted us to leave - USATODAY.com - Poll: Iraqis out of patience

In 2006, the iraqis wanted us to leave - Most Iraqis Favor Immediate U.S. Pullout, Polls Show

In 2007, the iraqis wanted us to leave - BBC NEWS | Middle East | Most people 'want Iraq pull-out'

In 2008, the iraqis wanted us to leave - Iraqi Public Opinion on the Presence of US Troops - World Public Opinion

In 2010, the iraqis wanted us to leave - Iraqi Prime Minister Says U.S. Forces Must Leave On Time - WSJ

In 2011, the iraqis wanted us to leave - U.S. Troops Are Leaving Because Iraq Doesn't Want Them There - The Atlantic

Obama wanted to leave troops in iraq, but iraqis refused - Obama wanted to keep 10,000 troops in Iraq, ABC's Raddatz claims | PunditFact

How did you miss all this?
We should have left. Are you saying they now support us ramping up the bombing of their country?
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Old 11-16-2015, 08:13 AM
 
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Nazism was a religion and so is Islam. We recognized the fact that Nazism had to be stomped out and we did it. We went through German society top to bottom and rooted out the radical Nazis and re educated the milder ones who joined the party/religion because their job depended on it ect. We have to occupy the Mid East and end Islam top to bottom and either convert them to Christianity or Atheism...anything but Muslim.
We need to do that here in the US. We can't stamp it out in other countries unless that country makes that request.
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