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View Poll Results: Do you agree with Obama and Hillary?
YES, we should accept 185,000 or more of these Syrian Refugees 23 9.20%
NO, we should not accept this many if any at all. 227 90.80%
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Old 11-14-2015, 07:06 PM
 
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A part of me wonders....was this the goal of the attacks? Stop letting people escape.....

I mean, I get why it has occurred, but...are they doing what the terrorists want? Not sure that the other choice is any better however.
It could be. I don't know for sure. There are legitimate refugees trying to get away from ISIS and its monsters. And then there are members of ISIS trying to extend its reach. ISIS is intent on destruction and killing. It could be that in their mind, people escaping from ISIS will undermind what they want.

 
Old 11-14-2015, 07:21 PM
 
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They are not. There's a difference between having a Caucasoid bone structure and being White. Ethiopians and Pakistanis have Caucasoid bone structures, but no one would ever call them White. Middle Easterners are mixed peoples, as Latinos are. Their native selves mixed with Africans (from slave trade but also contact with African kingdoms), European colonizers, and Asians (mostly Mongol or Turkic peoples).
Here in the US, people of Arab family ARE "white". Period. A friend of mine who's mostly Arab ID's as "anglo white" so maybe you need to tell her she ain't. Tho she'll whip out her Rebel flag real fast.

Latino ain't a race; you're probably thinking "Mestizo" which MOST Mexicans are. Argentina's mostly of the "white" race" and Dominicans are usually "Black". But ALL are "Hispanic".
 
Old 11-14-2015, 07:28 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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The question that begs is, why should Poland be expected to take in more refugees?
 
Old 11-14-2015, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Good for Poland.
 
Old 11-14-2015, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I don't think they learned anything from their own history,Polish were themselves refugees in Western Europe,Miiddle East,Africa and the Americas during the World wars 1 & 2 and during the communism era.

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Refugees.....you mean where their military retreated as their country was overrun from both sides and still ended up joining up with the Allied forces, fighting in battles across the Middle East, North Africa, Italy, the UK and more. Or where Stalin forcefully expelled Polish people from their ancestral homes and sent them to lovely places such as Kazakhstan.

All the Poles wanted was to fight and take their country back, meanwhile 70% of these refugees are males from the ages of 16-32, men of fighting age that are simply running off on their homes. One could explain why it might not be such a great idea to take in so many single males at one time, but I imagine it would go right over your head.


Poland has the right to determine who they do and don't allow, its that simple, seeing how many Ukrainians have been crossing into their country, why would they agree to take on even more refugees, particularly those who come from a completely different culture with a different set of values.
 
Old 11-14-2015, 07:41 PM
 
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Refugees.....you mean where their military retreated as their country was overrun from both sides and still ended up joining up with the Allied forces, fighting in battles across the Middle East, North Africa, Italy, the UK and more.

All the Poles wanted was to fight and take their country back, meanwhile 70% of these refugees are males from the ages of 16-32, men of fighting age that are simply running off on their homes. One could explain why it might not be such a great idea to take in so many single males at one time, but I imagine it would go right over your head.
Men who are prime recruitment age for orgs like ISIS.
 
Old 11-14-2015, 07:43 PM
 
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The question that begs is, why should Poland be expected to take in more refugees?
It is not specifically expected but if they are part of Europe,they have to take part of the effort Europeans are doing to help refugees.
They have to accept the good and bad side of the European Union,Polish workers themselves are flocking to UK,France and Germany to look for better jobs and better life.
Poland is still a poor country in the heart of Europe,so refugees will not stay there,most of them are only crossing Poland,no refugee will accept to live in Poland,conditions are as horrible as Bielorussia.
 
Old 11-14-2015, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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It is not specifically expected but if they are part of Europe,they have to take part of the effort Europeans are doing to help refugees.
They have to accept the good and bad side of the European Union,Polish workers themselves are flocking to UK,France and Germany to look for better jobs and better life.
Poland is still a poor country in the heart of Europe,so refugees will not stay there,most of them are only crossing Poland,no refugee will accept to live in Poland,conditions are as horrible as Bielorussia.


You're talking about labor movement across the EU versus taking on a large amount of refugees, many of whom lack the necessary job skills and education. In Sweden, data has shown that after 7 years, the employment rate among immigrants is about 54%. That means they are bringing in a ton of people that are drawing benefits, but are not maintaining regular employment. What is the upside in that for other nations. With jobs already scarce in Poland, what would they do with thousands of mostly male migrants that don't speak the language and would likely attempt to cross into Germany at the first opportunity.


The Poles decided that they don't want to deal with the headaches, I expect other nations(besides those who already have done the same), to join them in the future.
 
Old 11-14-2015, 07:58 PM
 
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It is not specifically expected but if they are part of Europe,they have to take part of the effort Europeans are doing to help refugees.
They have to accept the good and bad side of the European Union,Polish workers themselves are flocking to UK,France and Germany to look for better jobs and better life.
Poland is still a poor country in the heart of Europe,so refugees will not stay there,most of them are only crossing Poland,no refugee will accept to live in Poland,conditions are as horrible as Bielorussia.
Maybe Poland don't wanna play THAT game and I DON'T blame that country.

Too; the Islamist attack in Paris last night was a game changer and, probably ALL of Europe will start locking up at least Muslim refugees on sight. THEN their chances of getting asylum can be checked out will still under lock and key.
 
Old 11-14-2015, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Sweet Home Chicago!
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Good, one of the few countries over there who get it...
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