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Old 11-14-2015, 05:43 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Very soon the Muslims in Western countries will demand their own country within Europe. They will throw rocks and suicide bomb. It will be a bunch of Israel-Palestine situation all across Europe.
Sounds quite a bit like the history of how Israel came to be.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
As for Obama. He has spent the last 7 years trying to sell us on how good and misunderstood Muslims in the ME are. He has doubled down on trying to sell us on how he is a master of ME policy and how he has the bad element who also happen to be the JV team contained. He is in no position to recant or admit that he has not only royally screwed up with the Muslims but also with the Israelis.
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Old 11-14-2015, 05:47 PM
 
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Because that is historically the land of our people---we shouldn't have to leave. The Arabs should---they came from Jordan.


And Nomad, you may wanna read up on history. There are no "Palestinians", as there was never a sovereign Arab Muslim state called Palestine. It was always Israel---according not just to the Bible, but archaeological evidence. The Arabs came from Jordan and Egypt, and some from a few other countries. If you're really so mad about occupation, invasion, and slaughter, why not protest the Arab occupation of Assyrian land (Syria), Babylonian land (Iraq), Jewish land (disputed territories and Jordan), Ancient Egyptian land (Egypt), Nubian land (Sudan), or Berber land (Morocco)?
The world gave Israel and Palestine the land know as Israel, to share. But, due to the bigotry of the USA, Israel has been allowed to bully and persecute the Palestinians for 60 years. But dont fret, the US is almost done with Israel, when Syria, Russia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and a few more all team up using Russian weapons, the US is not going to step in, we will find out just how well prepared the ISraeli nuke program is.
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Old 11-14-2015, 05:52 PM
 
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The world gave Israel and Palestine the land know as Israel, to share. But, due to the bigotry of the USA, Israel has been allowed to bully and persecute the Palestinians for 60 years. But dont fret, the US is almost done with Israel, when Syria, Russia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and a few more all team up using Russian weapons, the US is not going to step in, we will find out just how well prepared the ISraeli nuke program is.
Fine. Why don't we let Israeli's immigrate here to the U.S. then? You want Syrians to come here, but wouldn't it be better to give all Israeli's refuge in the U.S. instead?

I think I know what your answer will be...
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Old 11-14-2015, 06:00 PM
 
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Why isn't the U.S. taking in Israeli migrants? I think they're the ones that truly need to seek refuge.
They'll have to change their story !! which is one is biblical ? Palestine or the US ? lol !!
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Old 11-14-2015, 06:00 PM
 
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The answer is that we should be supporting only 2 groups in that region: the Kurds and the Israelis. Why? Because we share the same values of freedom and equality. Look at Jerusalem. Look at Erbil. Look at Tel Aviv. And compare them to the likes of Riyadh, Tehran, Kabul, Tunis, and Damascus, just to name a few. The Palestinians engage in terrorism. They threw street parties when 9/11 happened. Last year, they kill more Americans than ISIS did. Why on Earth should we care about them? You wanna save money? Let's cut all aid that goes to the Palestinians and other Islamic nations.
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Old 11-14-2015, 06:24 PM
 
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Because that is historically the land of our people---we shouldn't have to leave. The Arabs should---they came from Jordan.


And Nomad, you may wanna read up on history. There are no "Palestinians", as there was never a sovereign Arab Muslim state called Palestine. It was always Israel---according not just to the Bible, but archaeological evidence. The Arabs came from Jordan and Egypt, and some from a few other countries. If you're really so mad about occupation, invasion, and slaughter, why not protest the Arab occupation of Assyrian land (Syria), Babylonian land (Iraq), Jewish land (disputed territories and Jordan), Ancient Egyptian land (Egypt), Nubian land (Sudan), or Berber land (Morocco)?
Here we go again with the nonsense about the Palestinians being ghosts that just appeared out of nowhere.
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Old 11-14-2015, 06:31 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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The world gave Israel and Palestine the land know as Israel, to share. But, due to the bigotry of the USA, Israel has been allowed to bully and persecute the Palestinians for 60 years. But dont fret, the US is almost done with Israel, when Syria, Russia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and a few more all team up using Russian weapons, the US is not going to step in, we will find out just how well prepared the ISraeli nuke program is.
Gave??? Israel had to fight off the attacks from multiple Arab countries who were out to annihilate them in 1948, in 1967, in 1973, in....

Palestinians don't want to share anything. They want it all. Are there any Jews in Gaza? Not a one. Were there any Jews in the West Bank from 1949 -1967? None. Not only did they march all the Jews out, the bulldozed all the Israeli towns which included the towns of my parents and all their relatives who had lived in the those towns for over 500 years. The Palestinians where given a choice in 1967 and looking at their exponential growth we can pretty much tell what they chose. Palestinians chose violence and they deserve everything they get back. Israel is not some pipsqueak nation that is just going to sit there and keep on getting hit. Israel will fight back and as to the EU they will take care of that issue in their own way on which payback will be much felt by them. The US is a Paper Tiger, Israel is not.
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Old 11-14-2015, 06:35 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Here we go again with the nonsense about the Palestinians being ghosts that just appeared out of nowhere.
Look up their history back to to the 1870's. They are migrants from other countries who came to the region looking for work. The ONLY people hiring in the region were Jews. Jews created Agriculture in the region and Arabs worked it. Arabs historically have been herders so they really owned nothing.
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Old 11-14-2015, 06:45 PM
 
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The world gave Israel and Palestine the land know as Israel, to share. But, due to the bigotry of the USA, Israel has been allowed to bully and persecute the Palestinians for 60 years. But dont fret, the US is almost done with Israel, when Syria, Russia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and a few more all team up using Russian weapons, the US is not going to step in, we will find out just how well prepared the ISraeli nuke program is.
Need to step high to wade through the BS in that post.

Having lived in Israel and experienced first hand the demented attacks by brain dead Arabs, I can attest Israel has been extremely patient.
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Old 11-14-2015, 06:47 PM
 
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Here we go again with the nonsense about the Palestinians being ghosts that just appeared out of nowhere.
Oh he is absolutely correct. It was either Rome, or the Ottoman Empire or some other entity that ruled the region. The Arabs there never had self rule.

Ever.
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