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Old 11-18-2015, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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It's that little issue about Assad being a mass murderer that gets in the way I think.
yes

but its a question of support the ''bad'' dictator.... or support the rebels who are affiliated with ISIS


ISIS rebels are NOT the ''better'' choice between the two evils
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Old 11-18-2015, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Gone
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ISIS was formed in 1999...during the Clinton era....the bush1/Clinton sanctions against Iraq killed half a million iraqi children, causing many refugees into Syria, and the birth of isis

and while the majority of isis is Sunni...they also have Shiite supporters(ie the rebels in Yemen)

facts:

1. The group was originally founded by a protégé of Osama Bin Laden, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, in 1999 as Jamaat al-Tawhid wa-l-Jihad (JTWJ).

2. "Levant" -- a region stretching from southern Turkey through Syria to Egypt including Lebanon, Israel, the Palestinian territories and Jordan, including Iraq

3. ISIS is the Islamic State In Syria.... ISIL- Islamic State in the Levant

4. yes they did enter Iraq in 2004...but they were created in 1999

5. ISIS is an extremist Sunni Islamist movement , Sunni's are not just an Iraqi group...there are Sunni's in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, and even in Afghanistan, and Uzbekistan, and as far up as Chechnya



the syrian rebels are isis

we should be supporting assad right now, but instead the liberal politicians want more ''arab spring'' like egypt and libya.....so dumb
See there is were the root of the problem comes into play, the reality is we should not be supporting anyone in the area, only real allies deserve any support at all and even that should have limits and strict guidelines. How do you think Iran got into the situation it is in today and why Iran distrusts us so much?
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Old 11-18-2015, 01:33 PM
 
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yes

but its a question of support the ''bad'' dictator.... or support the rebels who are affiliated with ISIS


ISIS rebels are NOT the ''better'' choice between the two evils
There is always a Third choice
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Old 11-18-2015, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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There is always a Third choice
I dont think so

the ''third choice'' is staying out of it...but then they will bring the fight to us

is that what you are advocating, Cas??? I know you enough to know you dont want the battle brought to our shores
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Old 11-18-2015, 02:03 PM
 
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You are going to compare a full scale Invasion of a Sovereign Nation in IRAQ by Dubya / Cheney and his OIL corporate minions which killed over 100,000+ Innocent Iraqis & 5,000+ American troops to losing a Ambassador in a terrorist incident!

How is that even comparable?

How is Obama even "bashing" Israel? Wasn't it Netanyahu who spoke to Congress a year ago without talking to the Administration beforehand?
What is funny is that Netanyahu was sucking up to the President last week in DC because he needs to renew the 10 year Security Funding from Obama and needs a increase from $3.1 BILLION per year to $5.3 BILLION a year now.

Please show us were Palestinians killed more Americans than ISIS?
Palestinian terrorists have killed more Americans than ISIS | Washington Examiner

And yes, Netanyahu is doing whatever it takes to defend his people and his country. I wish we had a leader like that. Instead, Hussein Obama worries more about hurting the feelings of his pen pal, the Ayatollah.

And you're shallow minded. I wasn't comparing the death of the ambassador to the people killed. I was saying that Obama is a hypocrite. He said taking out Hussein was a mistake, yet goes to Libya and does the same thing to Qaddafi. The result in both countries was the same: the breeding ground of Islamism.
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Old 11-18-2015, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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George Bush went into Iraq based on information that was NOT 100% accurate. Everyone at the time including current corrupt Democrat Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton agreed with the information along with other Democrats at the time.
Despite the problem with information we did win Iraq and had it under control with 10,000 troops.

Obama was told by ex-President Bush and all Republicans and some Democrats that removing troops at once and giving a date certain will give the enemy Iraq.
Obama as usual did not listen to wisdom and did what he wanted to and removed the troops.

Isis moved in (thanks to Obama) and took over the vacuum that American troops left.

Obama's actions have also caused a mass exodus of Muslims including plenty of radicals throughout the free world.
Pretty much everyone but the socialists around the world said this is crazy, there has to be terrorists among these people.

We now a few terrorist attacks in France and elsewhere.
Obama wants us now to take 100,000 Sharia loving Muslims into this country which is insane.

Well now IMO we are on the way to WW3.

Thanks to Obama.

Anyone think this will end well without a war?
You realize it was President Bush who negotiated the troop withdrawal way back in 2008 right ?
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Old 11-18-2015, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Obama made the choice against pretty much ALL ADVISE to keep the campaign promise of all the troops out of Iraq.
That caused all that has gone on since American blood and military had won complete control of Iraq (before Ibama).

OBAMA FUBAR
Monday Morning Quarterback Alert!

Nevermind that the Iraqi government demanded we leave, there were maybe five Americans in favor of a permanent US occupation in Iraq at the time we withdrew. We all wanted to put that nightmare behind us.

It was also a given that the region would go to pot when we left. The question was when. In 2011, or a further 10 years down the road?
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Old 11-18-2015, 02:15 PM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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Oh you think Obama doesn't get Iran the 150 Billion that we were holding because they were a terrorist state, REALLY?

Vote for Hillary right there IMO.


WE are not holding $150bn. You have no idea. Really. Way to ignore my earlier post too
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Old 11-18-2015, 02:51 PM
 
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Monday Morning Quarterback Alert!

Nevermind that the Iraqi government demanded we leave, there were maybe five Americans in favor of a permanent US occupation in Iraq at the time we withdrew. We all wanted to put that nightmare behind us.

It was also a given that the region would go to pot when we left. The question was when. In 2011, or a further 10 years down the road?
Obama doesn't listen to even the American people much less the Iraqi ones. Notice all in there now and I'm sure there was no asking.

Obama was and is weak, even more so if he couldn't explain and get Iraq to side with him in not spreading Radical Islam.

Obama could not even make a JV team and shame on America for electing him twice.
Things like the economy, interest rates, the world at war are all his handiwork, but he is using low interest rates to try and ride this out so the next President gets his crash.
Bookmark this...
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Old 11-18-2015, 03:06 PM
 
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Originally Posted by RCCCB View Post
George Bush went into Iraq based on information that was NOT 100% accurate. Everyone at the time including current corrupt Democrat Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton agreed with the information along with other Democrats at the time.
Despite the problem with information we did win Iraq and had it under control with 10,000 troops.

Obama was told by ex-President Bush and all Republicans and some Democrats that removing troops at once and giving a date certain will give the enemy Iraq.
Obama as usual did not listen to wisdom and did what he wanted to and removed the troops.

Isis moved in (thanks to Obama) and took over the vacuum that American troops left.

Obama's actions have also caused a mass exodus of Muslims including plenty of radicals throughout the free world.
Pretty much everyone but the socialists around the world said this is crazy, there has to be terrorists among these people.

We now a few terrorist attacks in France and elsewhere.
Obama wants us now to take 100,000 Sharia loving Muslims into this country which is insane.

Well now IMO we are on the way to WW3.

Thanks to Obama.

Anyone think this will end well without a war?
I'm not sure that obuma gives a damn
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