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Old 11-16-2015, 01:54 PM
 
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By that logic, we really destabilized europe when we fought the nazis. Lot of people died.
Invading Germany and Iraq are completely similar. Thank you for that history lesson.
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Old 11-16-2015, 01:55 PM
 
Location: USA
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Obama. He let the leader out of GITMO.
And traded 5 of them for a traitor

What a deal
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Old 11-16-2015, 02:07 PM
 
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This border problem has been a problem since I moved home to Texas 25 years ago. IMO, the grass roots from each side want it stopped, but the folks who run DC do not.

That is a bi partisan coalition.

The Republicans have the house and senate. Seen anything coming from them about illegals? All I see is planned parenthood and shut down the government over the cause of the month.
So the Republicans aren't doing anything about this problem? Here are a couple of bills they have produced just this year. So you were sayin? Think the Democrats will sign them?

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/hous...-e-verify-bill
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Old 11-16-2015, 02:10 PM
 
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Deportation doesn't work. The silly scare tactics of terrorists streaming across the border is nothing more than rhetoric. If they're coming in they're doing it legally.
Self-deportation will if they have no means to support themselves. It was the FBI Director, Robert Mueller who stated that those from known terrorist countries have slipped through out border right along with illegal Mexicans. Is he pushing scare tactics? Korans, etc. have been found near our border also. Oh, you have a crystal ball that terrorists will "always" come here legally?
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Old 11-16-2015, 02:24 PM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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Chew on that for a minute.

Each with their own selfish motives, and not a single one of those care about the sovereignty of the United States of America.

A Trifecta of Criminals that must be defeated.
Agreed, this is primarily why people like Trump will be elected

The disillusionment, the naivete, the ignorance, the refusal to be on the wrong side of history is why they will lose.

I saw it coming a mile away.
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Old 11-16-2015, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Which administration unnecessarily invaded Iraq thus destabilizing the region which lead to the creation of ISIS?

Which administration supported the Arab Spring (when it started long after Bush left office), armed Libyan jihadists, supported the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, called for the downfall of Assad and has done almost nothing to counter ISIS?

I would also remind you that ISIS formed in SYRIA, not Iraq, and they formed after the attempt to topple Assad... all years after Bush left office and all supported by Obama.

Bush really had next to nothing to do with ISIS.

BDS has made the Left totally insane.
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Old 11-16-2015, 02:38 PM
 
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Obama. He let the leader out of GITMO.
There is zero proof for this assertion.
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Old 11-16-2015, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Which administration unnecessarily invaded Iraq thus destabilizing the region which lead to the creation of ISIS?
Planning to overthrow all those countries has been the US playbook for a very long time.
Overthrowing Syria goes back to 1957.

Leaving Iraq created the environment by which ISIS rose, not invading. That was AQ and the Taliban.
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Old 11-16-2015, 02:43 PM
 
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Self-deportation will if they have no means to support themselves. It was the FBI Director, Robert Mueller who stated that those from known terrorist countries have slipped through out border right along with illegal Mexicans. Is he pushing scare tactics? Korans, etc. have been found near our border also. Oh, you have a crystal ball that terrorists will "always" come here legally?
Is it possible? Sure. Can we prevent it 100%? Not a chance. Our best chance of preventing terror attacks is to limit our involvement in the Middle East. To do that we need to find ways to limit our need for fossil fuel.
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Old 11-16-2015, 02:45 PM
 
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Planning to overthrow all those countries has been the US playbook for a very long time.
Overthrowing Syria goes back to 1957.

Leaving Iraq created the environment by which ISIS rose, not invading. That was AQ and the Taliban.
That is like saying pulling a knife from someone's chest lead to death not the knife going in.
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