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View Poll Results: Do you support Congress blocking funding for ME refugees ?
yes 85 85.86%
no 14 14.14%
Voters: 99. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-17-2015, 02:20 PM
 
Location: NJ
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No. In fact, eff no. A small group of terrorists does not mean that all refugees and immigrants are violent.

Take a deep breath and don't let your xenophobic impulses overwhelm you. It's once incident perpetuated by a fringe group. If you really want to stem violence, ban fundamentalism. All fundamentalism; not just Islam.
You are arguing semantics. No one is saying all refugees are terrorists. that is an incorrect conclusion on your part.

The problem is there are terrorists among the refugees and we have no way to sort them out. There is no way to determine their country of origin or their identity as false passports are easily obtained if they have a passport.

For now put a hold on refugees from the middle east.

Heres some mushroom soup, I got most of the poison muchrooms out, enjoy.
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Old 11-17-2015, 06:49 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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You are arguing semantics. No one is saying all refugees are terrorists. that is an incorrect conclusion on your part.

The problem is there are terrorists among the refugees and we have no way to sort them out. There is no way to determine their country of origin or their identity as false passports are easily obtained if they have a passport.

For now put a hold on refugees from the middle east.

Heres some mushroom soup, I got most of the poison muchrooms out, enjoy.
Absolutely correct.
The FBI has already admitted that there is no possible way to properly screen the refugees.
Even at 1 % of 10,000 that is a lot of bad guys we are letting in.
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Old 11-17-2015, 06:55 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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I despise the conservatives who would give in to terrorists by giving them exactly what they want. What do you think a terrorist's objective is? To make us cower in fear of them. And most conservatives, it seems, are more than happy to do just that.
Cower? NO
Does it make you a coward to install a home security system if you have doubts about your neighborhood?
Does it make you a coward to lock your car doors when you park your car at the mall?
Are you a coward to have homeowners insurance?
Are you a coward if you lock your doors at night or when you leave your house?
Are we cowards for doing proper back ground checks on all Immigrant applicants?
These refugees can not be properly Vetted. The FBI has already admitted this.
Security experts agree that ISIS would use the refugees to sneak their people into other countries.
It is smart to pause and rethink what we are doing until we can come up with a better system to verify who we welcome into our country.
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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There is no funding now. For anything. Still on a continuing resolution
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Absolutely correct.
The FBI has already admitted that there is no possible way to properly screen the refugees.
Even at 1 % of 10,000 that is a lot of bad guys we are letting in.
Did you know that we already receive around 80,000 refugees from around the world each year, mostly from Burma but Iraq accounted for around 20,000 each year for the last few years. Now we are worrying about our ability to screen.

http://www.state.gov/j/prm/releases/...ics/228666.htm
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:19 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Did you know that we already receive around 80,000 refugees from around the world each year, mostly from Burma but Iraq accounted for around 20,000 each year for the last few years. Now we are worrying about our ability to screen.

http://www.state.gov/j/prm/releases/...ics/228666.htm
Pretty sure those countries have functional governments. But you are correct we should always be worried about our ability to screen.
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Old 11-17-2015, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Have you heard that many Muslims are converting to Christianity in Germany (and probably other EU countries) in the hope that they get a better chance to stay? If we went on your premise, they would be crawling over each other to get to the alter. How would the government "prove" they are Christian? Would they be on the short-list vetting process?
That would not help in the US. The US government only wants Muslims. They won't take in Christians.
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Old 11-18-2015, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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That would not help in the US. The US government only wants Muslims. They won't take in Christians.
That is not true at alll but keep on with your rants.
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Old 11-18-2015, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Sheesh! Why don't you guys feel this way when it comes to gun rights? When somebody goes nuts with a gun, everybody says "It wasn't MY gun!"

Same thing with these refugees! Most of them are not terrorists so why punish all of them? This is not the America I know!
Exactly.

Kindergarten children and theater/church goers seem to be acceptable losses here if it means background checks and magazine restrictions and yet...

Hypocrites.
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Old 11-18-2015, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Yes, and so are tens of thousands of others who never bombed anything. What's your point? As with all people, some refugees and immigrants do awful things, but the vast majority don't.

I know this event has many people riled up, but try to think rationally. The whole, 'we gotta get them foreigners' approach never ends well.
you sound just like the President of France.. and look what happened.. he changed his tune.
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