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Old 11-17-2015, 10:16 AM
 
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The New York Times’ Maureen Dowd captured the moment last weekend when she referred to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as "the midwife to chaos" in Libya. Dowd apparently came to that conclusion after watching Clinton bobbing and weaving and admitting and denying as she was confronted with the partial record of her failures and obfuscations as secretary of state, particularly with respect to Libya.

The public record is fairly well-known. In March 2011, President Barack Obama declared war on Libya. He did this at the urging of Clinton, who wanted to overthrow Libyan strongman Col. Moammar Gadhafi so she could boast of having brought "democracy" to the region.

She and Obama conspired to do this even though former President George W. Bush and former British Prime Minister Tony Blair had publicly praised Gadhafi as an ally in the war against terrorist groups and even though the U.S. was giving the Gadhafi government more than $100 million a year in foreign aid.

Obama did his best to avoid constitutional norms. He deployed American intelligence agents on the ground, not troops, so he could plausibly deny he had put "boots" on the ground. He did not seek an American national consensus for war because Libya presented no threat whatsoever to the U.S. He did not obtain a congressional declaration of war as the Constitution requires because he couldn’t get one. And he did not seek United Nations permission, which is required to attack a fellow U.N. member.

The Midwife to Chaos and Her Perjury - Antiwar.com Original by -- Antiwar.com

 
Old 11-17-2015, 10:19 AM
 
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I thought Hillary won? Is Dowd saying she didn't?
 
Old 11-17-2015, 10:21 AM
 
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She made her bones.
 
Old 11-17-2015, 10:24 AM
 
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I thought Hillary won? Is Dowd saying she didn't?

I don't really see a difference between Hillary, Obama or Bush when dealing with the Middle East. IMO they are all war mongers. Each in their own way has caused a great deal damage in the Middle East and in turned created more terrorists. Maybe the Pentagon really runs the show filling the coffers of the MIC. It is something to consider.
 
Old 11-17-2015, 10:35 AM
 
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I've long ago considered it and I agree.
 
Old 11-17-2015, 01:22 PM
 
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I've long ago considered it and I agree.
Glad I'm not the only one, I thought I may of needed some tin foil for the old noggin
 
Old 11-17-2015, 01:33 PM
 
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Obama and Hillary have done such a good job with Libya.

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