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Old 11-19-2015, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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What I'd like to see is the Arabs of those regions grow a set of balls overthrow Fatah (PLO) and Hamas and create a negotiating group that will meet with a Israeli negotiating group without any preconditions and work it out. The Arab people want peace, but their Arab leaders don't.
Why not have the Israelis work with the people living in their country to overthrow leaders that are clearly pointless because they don't represent any country?
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:46 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Why not have the Israelis work with the people living in their country to overthrow leaders that are clearly pointless because they don't represent any country?
You do know Israel does have democratic elections every few years or even earlier when there is a no confidence vote. The Arabs in those two other regions have the Palestinian Authority to contend with due to the Oslo Accords. The Israelis can't remove Hamas/Fatah while the Oslo Accords are still in use. It's directly up to their own citizens to do so.
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You do know Israel does have democratic elections every few years or even earlier when there is a no confidence vote. The Arabs in those two other regions have the Palestinian Authority to contend with due to the Oslo Accords. The Israelis can't remove Hamas/Fatah while the Oslo Accords are still in use. It's directly up to their own citizens to do so.
It is their own country, Israel should remove such restrictions because they clearly aren't needed, especially seeing there is no such thing as Palestine, therefore there is no real agreement. Basically the who idea that there is any real Palestinian government of any kind should simply be removed because it doesn't actually exist and those living in the West Bank and Gaza Strip should be voting for the country that they live in, which is Israel.
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Old 11-19-2015, 06:11 PM
 
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If Israel tried to do such a thing, the world would cry bloody murder. The only solution is to send the "Palestinians" out. The majority of the people there don't want peace anymore.
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Old 11-19-2015, 06:19 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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If Israel tried to do such a thing, the world would cry bloody murder. The only solution is to send the "Palestinians" out. The majority of the people there don't want peace anymore.
The majority is now youths who've been taught Jew Hate since birth. Their information is heavily censored by the Palestinian Authority. The UN found out last year that their international education materials were nearly all burned and a few copies were kept for when their inspectors came in.
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Old 11-19-2015, 06:21 PM
 
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HA! The UN is so incompetent. They JUST figured this out after Israel has been telling them for years?
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Old 11-19-2015, 06:35 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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HA! The UN is so incompetent. They JUST figured this out after Israel has been telling them for years?
Keep in mind that the UNRWA in the regions are local Arabs and the UNRWA directors are in the US. They didn't find out about the rocket storage at the schools either until last year. The UNRWA has blindly trusted them for decades.
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Old 11-19-2015, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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If Israel tried to do such a thing, the world would cry bloody murder. The only solution is to send the "Palestinians" out. The majority of the people there don't want peace anymore.
So basically Israel should just force its own citizens out of its country and make them be refugees in surrounding countries?
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Old 11-19-2015, 06:47 PM
 
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They aren't Israeli citizens....but yes.
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Old 11-19-2015, 06:49 PM
 
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They aren't Israeli citizens....but yes.
Well they live in the country of Israel, don't they? By that accord, then they are citizens of Israel in one form or another because they don't belong to another country. So then there you have it, the Israeli government should wage civil war to force out anyone who does not support the Israeli nation as a whole. I am sure that will solve this lingering problem.
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