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Dresden was totally unnecessary and nothing to be proud of.
I know some people say that, but it's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback. The reality is, that the war was not over, and wouldn't be over until 3 months after Dresden.
Bomb them into near-extinction. As we did in WW2. Nazism and other forms of Fascism are barely around anymore. It's virtually extinct because we didn't fight PC wars. Time to do that again.
Yep, atomic bomb time for Syria. There will be innocent lives lost just as there were in Hiroshima but thats a part of war and look at Japan now.
Welcome to the Age of Barbarism. We thought we had put it behind us, but damn - here it is again.
The "barbarism" of the United States of America started this war. And before the US government said 100's of lies and started a war for corporate America ISIS was a powerless organization.
The people of Iraq did absolutely nothing to America. But still America went to Iraq and killed 100,000+ innocent Iraqi people, we destroyed their economy and infrastructure, and we destroyed their national security. We also caused civil wars in surrounding countries and turned the whole region into chaos.
Barbarism is killing 100,000+ innocent Iraqis and never even apologizing for it. And barbarism is talking about dropping more bombs after you just killed 100,000+ innocent people.
Instead of spending more money on bombs to blow the arms and legs off of more little children, we should instead apologize to Iraq and the surrounding countries. Then we should calculate the cost of the bombs we dropped on them and dream of dropping on them today (and then give the countries we destroyed that money.)
Then we should apologize to all Muslims for insulting their religion and God. And then we should have civilized conversations with the Muslim world about bringing the love and prosperity of Jesus and Allah to both our worlds (instead of destroying both worlds prosperity and destroying both worlds normal way of life.)
But like you said "Welcome to the Age of Barbarism", a age where you don't apologize for grievous crimes, don't have civilized conversations, and instead you just drop bombs.
absolutely correct. today's soft and pacifist people don't have the stomach for another Dresden. The terrorists count on the soft people's support.
This is a misguided interpretation of events. WWII was a war of attrition against a discrete enemy. The firebombing of Desden and of Japanese cities was designed to break the backbone of the Axis powers - a strategy which historians have questioned in terms of results.
IS/Islamic Terrorism is completely different enemy with no parallels to Nazi Germany/Imperial Japan. It is movement of Zealots. Who is there to defeat ? If you put a large army in Iraq/Syria IS will remove their uniforms and give up. If everyone is slaughtered then after the armies leave, the slaughter pictures will be used to recruit a new army of perhaps even greater fanatics - you will have provided ready justification for more terrorist attacks. We defeated Al Quedea in Iraq but that was short lived and someone worse came along. Should we repeat the past?
IS may not have bombed Paris or Down the Russian Jet - those were local radicals who want to be associated with IS and so have pledged allegiance to them and claim to take direction(but may have not received any training in Syria) - IS wants people to think they are all powerful because this helps them feel less impotent against the west and helps their recruiting (rewarding new recruits with suicide squad service). Islamic fundamentalism has a self-esteem problem and wants all Sunni muslims to think they are justified in their actions.
IS/Islamic radicals must be treated as the traitorous/murderous criminals they are - much like Nazis in the few years after WWII - they should receive no mercy and be arrested, jailed, killed anywhere they go - this includes zero tolerance for those who preach Jihad (against muslims or non-muslims). Gulf states must play a big part or lead the fight - despite their happiness to let the west shoulder the fighting burden - because they are instrumental in stopping the recruiting pipeline and removing the religious legitimacy from IS actions.
The west sending armies to Syria to kill IS is not going to stop Belgian or French Radicals or those living in the Sinai Peninsula. We need a coordinated intelligent approach.
This is a misguided interpretation of events. WWII was a war of attrition against a discrete enemy. The firebombing of Desden and of Japanese cities was designed to break the backbone of the Axis powers - a strategy which historians have questioned in terms of results.
IS/Islamic Terrorism is completely different enemy with no parallels to Nazi Germany/Imperial Japan. It is movement of Zealots. Who is there to defeat ? If you put a large army in Iraq/Syria IS will remove their uniforms and give up. If everyone is slaughtered then the pictures will be used to recruit a new army of perhaps even greater fanatics - you will have provided ready justification for more terrorist attacks. We defeated Al Quedea in Iraq but that was short lived and someone worse came along. Should we repeat the past?
IS may not have bombed Paris or Down the Russian Jet - those were local radicals who want to be associated with IS and so have pledged allegiance to them and claim to take direction(but may have not received any training in Syria) - IS wants people to think they are all powerful because this helps them feel less impotent against the west and helps their recruiting (rewarding new recruits with suicide squad service). Islamic fundamentalism has a self-esteem problem and wants all Sunni muslims to think they are justified in their actions.
IS/Islamic radicals must be treated as the traitorous/murderous criminals they are - much like Nazis in the few years after WWII - they should receive no mercy and be arrested, jailed, killed anywhere they go - this includes zero tolerance for those who preach Jihad (against muslims or non-muslims). Gulf states must play a big part or lead the fight - despite their happiness to let the west shoulder the fighting burden - because they are instrumental in stopping the recruiting pipeline and removing the religious legitimacy from IS actions.
The west sending armies to Syria to kill IS is not going to stop Belgian or French Radicals or those living in the Sinai Peninsula. We need a coordinated intelligent approach.
The "barbarism" of the United States of America started this war. And before the US government said 100's of lies and started a war for corporate America ISIS was a powerless organization.
The people of Iraq did absolutely nothing to America. But still America went to Iraq and killed 100,000+ innocent Iraqi people, we destroyed their economy and infrastructure, and we destroyed their national security. We also caused civil wars in surrounding countries and turned the whole region into chaos.
Barbarism is killing 100,000+ innocent Iraqis and never even apologizing for it. And barbarism is talking about dropping more bombs after you just killed 100,000+ innocent people.
Instead of spending more money on bombs to blow the arms and legs off of more little children, we should instead apologize to Iraq and the surrounding countries. Then we should calculate the cost of the bombs we dropped on them and dream of dropping on them today (and then give the countries we destroyed that money.)
Then we should apologize to all Muslims for insulting their religion and God. And then we should have civilized conversations with the Muslim world about bringing the love and prosperity of Jesus and Allah to both our worlds (instead of destroying both worlds prosperity and destroying both worlds normal way of life.)
But like you said "Welcome to the Age of Barbarism", a age where you don't apologize for grievous crimes, don't have civilized conversations, and instead you just drop bombs.
So I take it that you think the barbarism and instability in the ME started when we invaded Iraq?
The Art Of War By Sun Tzu is a good read and great place to start to understand what is necessary.
I knew we were screwed when Obama said it was going to take a long time to defeat them. If you only finish chapter two you can see that also. Understanding the economy of warfare and how success requires winning decisive engagements quickly. This section advises that successful military campaigns require limiting the cost of competition and conflict.
The war should be fought swiftly to avoid economic losses: "No long war ever profited any country: 100 victories in 100 battles is simply ridiculous.
Obama has been a complete failure as Commander in Chief !!!
Japan declared war on the US. Syria never declared war on the US. ISIS is basically an occupying force in eastern Syria.
Using nuclear weapons would make the US an international pariah and encourage much more terrorism against it.
A pariah for whom? Only the Muslims. Nobody else cares about Syria or what happens to it, especially since it's infested with ISIS and other jihadists, and the only other option is to let Iran and its proxies run the place.
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