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I understand there are logistical issues with the process mentioned to slow Syrian refugees from coming into the U.S. But Obama threatening to veto the bill to me is partially disturbing. IF it isn't clear enough already the terrorist threat to our borders, and the population continually crying out loud about our own countries issues like the homeless and the threat that already exists, Obama continue to be hell bent on being this nice to other countries President.
Am I crazy, or is Obama really that scary?
He is that scary because he's a muslim that wants to turn our nation into an Islamic one. My Father was at Pearl Harbor when it was bombed, spent 4 years fighting in the pacific in World War II, and 3 years in the Air Force. To see one man want to destroy everything so many Americans fought and died for is a disgrace, and Obama is a disgrace as a person and a President.
I want to ask how that is allowed and not an abuse of power, to not bring a bill to the senate after it has passed the house on the advice of the president, but perhaps I should just google it
gumisgood, you must understand that just about everyone on cd is an expert in nearly every field and none have time to answer questions from such under-educated people such as yourself.
Since the U.S. can't rely on the Syrian government to check things like an applicant's criminal history, the U.S. relies on what they learn from interviews for that information.
Interviewer: Have you been involved in crimes? Are you interested in terror?
But supposedly if they lie we will know because
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The interviews are conducted by specially-trained DHS officers who spend at least eight weeks learning skills like how to question applicants and test their credibility.
It is ridiculous to expect they could weed out anything other than a few that way.
The House bill is not a serious proposal. It is a ploy by Republicans to turn what should be a thoughtful discussion on security and compassion into fodder for the campaign. It will fail in the Senate and never get to Obama. Fortunately, there are clearer heads and less partisan leadership in the Senate and there will be bills coming forth to deal with the issue of potential terrorists entering our country that are measured and hopefully effective.
If the administration is interested in thoughtful discussion they should put a moratorium on the program while there could be thoughtful discussion. Although I do agree there will not be a truly thoughtful discussion but that is not the fault of just the "evil" republican side.
Do you know how many jobs' bills were passed by the House, never to see the light of day again as the Senate sat on it? Now the Dems controlled the Senate then - not now. So we will see how this shakes out.
Reid (Senate minority leader) apparently believes he has enough support (at least 41 Senators) to filibuster the bill and therefore prevent cloture, which means it wouldn't even be voted on in the Senate.
Almost all of the Dem Senators (44, plus 2 Independents who caucus with the Dems) would have to fall in line on this. These are the Dem Senate seats up for grabs in the 2016 election:
Michael Bennet (Colorado)
Richard Blumenthal (Connecticut)
Barbara Boxer (California) retiring in 2016
Patrick Leahy (Vermont)
Barbara Mikulski (Maryland) retiring in 2016
Patty Murray (Washington)
Harry Reid (Nevada) retiring in 2016
Brian Schatz (Hawaii)
Charles Schumer (New York)
Ron Wyden (Oregon)
Wonder how their constituents feel about this bill.
gumisgood, you must understand that just about everyone on cd is an expert in nearly every field and none have time to answer questions from such under-educated people such as yourself.
The reason over 50% are getting through is because they have sat in refugee camps for months and sometimes years and are already vetted by the UN.
Seriously we are much more likely to see a terrorist slip through the Mexican border or just slide on in on a tourist or student visa.
But the poster in question said 2% and I was questioning if he had facts for that? I didn't ask how long they waited?
What kind of vetting do you think the UN does?
People tend to think what they are told to think. Right now they are being told to be concerned about the Syrian refugees, although they are screened more thoroughly that anyone.
Hmmm... The Syrian Ambassador to India seems to believe otherwise...
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"Among the refugees, who went to Europe, maybe more than 20 percent belong to ISIL groups. Now Europe has received bad element into their ground. They will face further problem in future," Riad Abbas said, commenting on recent deadly terrorist acts in Paris on November 13."
gumisgood, you must understand that just about everyone on cd is an expert in nearly every field and none have time to answer questions from such under-educated people such as yourself.
The reason over 50% are getting through is because they have sat in refugee camps for months and sometimes years and are already vetted by the UN.
Seriously we are much more likely to see a terrorist slip through the Mexican border or just slide on in on a tourist or student visa.
I do agree this is more likely. I also believe there are probably enough already here who are ISIS anyway.
What is so important about the Syrian refugee program that President Obama would veto this bill?
If the process really takes 2 years we are not saving these people from some immediate danger. Who can possible believe the vetting process can be that secure?
Not even Obama's own Admin believes the vetting process is secure.
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