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Why not? Do you disagree that what Allen did involved acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State and appeared to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population and occurred primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States?
allen was involved with gang activity and violence which is applicable to your quote up until the words intimidate and coerce a "civilian population". gang violence is not aimed at the "civilian population", it is aimed at other members of rival gangs. the civilian population does not apply.
The more fascinating question to me is why so many news outlets ARENT referring to it as domestic terrorism.
Exactly. Multiple news sources saying that Dear, when arrested, said "no more baby parts." That's a fairly obvious clue his motivation is pro-life anti-abortion. If his motivation is indeed abortion, then he's using violence to try to influence public policy, and therefore meets the definition of "terrorist" that helenejen posted.
This is playing out the same way as Dylann Roof when he killed 9 people in Charleston. His motive was anti-black hatred, spurred on the by white supremacist group he belonged to. His attack used methods identical to that of the Paris terrorists, yet the media also refused to correctly label Roof as a terrorist, instead brushing him off as merely "mentally ill."
allen was involved with gang activity and violence which is applicable to your quote up until the words intimidate and coerce a "civilian population". gang violence is not aimed at the "civilian population", it is aimed at other members of rival gangs. the civilian population does not apply.
You bring up a very good point! What is a "civilian"? I have been hearing Mr. Dear killed one police officer and two "civilians". Wasn't Mr. Swasey a civilian? He was employed by the University of Colorado and was being paid to do a job. Does that mean that other people who work for the University of Colorado are not civilians? How does someone being a gang member exempt them from being a civilian? Isn't a civilian someone who lives in a civilized society? Aren't we all civilians? Where and how do you draw a mythical line separating civilians from non-civilians?
Exactly. Multiple news sources saying that Dear, when arrested, said "no more baby parts." That's a fairly obvious clue his motivation is pro-life anti-abortion. If his motivation is indeed abortion, then he's using violence to try to influence public policy, and therefore meets the definition of "terrorist" that helenejen posted.
This is playing out the same way as Dylann Roof when he killed 9 people in Charleston. His motive was anti-black hatred, spurred on the by white supremacist group he belonged to. His attack used methods identical to that of the Paris terrorists, yet the media also refused to correctly label Roof as a terrorist, instead brushing him off as merely "mentally ill."
The no more baby parts is not as applicable as you think. He said a LOT of things apparently, he also mentioned President Barack Obama in multiple statements. The guy may be suffering from Obama Derangement syndrome. At this point its appropriate to label it domestic terrorism, as it appears that way. As we learn more it may change to just being a crazy guy.
Maybe its just a extreme case of Obama Derangement Syndrome. I wonder what his CD handle was.
So much for worrying about Syrian refugees, we've got our own domestic right-wing terrorists as it is. This is an act of terrorism. There is no other word for it. Killing people when the motive is political ideology is terrorism, and it's not just limited to radical Muslims. And yet the mainstream media will not use the word "terrorist" to describe this American shooter...
This is exactly why they hate us! A Terrorist is a terrorist no matter what skin color they are or religion they are affiliated with in this world. Consider it to be something else when it is the male color of the majority here in America. Doomsday is upon us! Keep making it fit their agenda. Time is running out!
OK. Do you believe that the actions of either Mr. Dear or Mr. Allen met those criteria, and if so, why? If you believe that one or both didn't meet the criteria, could you state your reasons for reaching that conclusion as well?
Given the Patriot Act definition, the label of domestic terrorism comes down to intention. What was Dear's motive? What was Allen's motive? Can you answer either of these questions?
This is playing out the same way as Dylann Roof when he killed 9 people in Charleston. His motive was anti-black hatred, spurred on the by white supremacist group he belonged to.
What group was that? I don't recall him being part of any group, he was a lone nut that went off the deep end.
Given the Patriot Act definition, the label of domestic terrorism comes down to motive. What was Dear's motive? What was Allen's motive? Can you answer either of these questions?
We don't know the motive of either. Do you know Dear's motive? The Colorado Springs Police Department says that they don't know. Are you going to believe them or what some media pundit assumes was his motive? Maybe he didn't have a motive. Maybe he didn't take his meds yesterday. Why jump to conclusions?
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