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Old 11-28-2015, 09:02 AM
 
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Because obviously, growing vegetables doesn't use up water.
Certainly not on the scale of 2,464 gallons per pound of meat. There are 90 million head of cattle just in the U.S. alone. Each one will yield approximate 450 pounds of meat. Just think about that number as it relates to water consumption per pound. It boggles the mind, especially when we are facing drought in so many places across the country.
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Old 11-28-2015, 09:04 AM
 
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There should never be a tax on food!
When even me and nononsenseguy agree....you know you've gone too far

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Old 11-28-2015, 09:04 AM
 
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Certainly not on the scale of 2,464 gallons per pound of meat.
Personally, I would be embarrassed to repeat that stat.
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Old 11-28-2015, 09:04 AM
 
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Saw an interesting article. It talked about putting a tax on meat that would be used to help the environment. They gave examples of the money collected could use for clean drinking water or help preserve park's. Think it is a good idea...thought's?
If this is allowed, where will it stop.......milk or sugar next?
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Old 11-28-2015, 09:04 AM
 
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Saw an interesting article. It talked about putting a tax on meat that would be used to help the environment. They gave examples of the money collected could use for clean drinking water or help preserve park's. Think it is a good idea...thought's?

If it cleans up the externalities of the industry, then yes, its a good tax. If it is used for anything else then its a horrible tax. And in no way can this be a federally administered tax.I'd feel the same about an industry that pollutes a river. They should clean it up.
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Old 11-28-2015, 09:19 AM
 
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Where does the water go? Surely it does not vanish into thin air, since evaporated water returns to earth.

As a hand on a small hobby farm with 5 head of cattle, I have read these reports in detail. Nowhere do they take into account the water "returned" to the ground by the animal in question.
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Old 11-28-2015, 09:20 AM
 
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Immoral taxes are still immoral. A tax on food is immoral.
I'm for fair taxation using a flat tax on everything, however rebates for the low income on the necessities of life should be included.
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Old 11-28-2015, 09:23 AM
 
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I'm for fair taxation using a flat tax on everything, however rebates for the low income on the necessities of life should be included.
Fine, but that doesn't change my argument.
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Old 11-28-2015, 09:41 AM
 
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Certainly not on the scale of 2,464 gallons per pound of meat. There are 90 million head of cattle just in the U.S. alone. Each one will yield approximate 450 pounds of meat. Just think about that number as it relates to water consumption per pound. It boggles the mind, especially when we are facing drought in so many places across the country.
Time for some perspective, just some quick numbers without fully researching them:

Flow rate of Mississippi at NO = 4.5 million gallons per second

200 (Pounds of meat per person annually) * 2464 (gallons of water per pound)* 300 million(people) = 147,840,000,000,000

147,840,000,000,000 / 450,000,00 = 328,533

328,533 / 60 / 60 / 24 = 3.8 days of flow from Mississippi to provide the annual needs of meat industry.
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Old 11-28-2015, 09:48 AM
 
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If it cleans up the externalities of the industry, then yes, its a good tax.
What about vegetables? It's phosphorous and nitrogen used for fertilization that cause algae blooms and "dead zones". Farm fields for growing food are also major contributor to water pollution.
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