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An interesting video concerning how the electric car is already HERE. But nobody is selling it... why do we still have hybrids when the electric car is here? Anyone know? I think all the car companies deserve to go bankrupt and yet here we are protecting them with taxpayers money by the government. When is the corruption in the government going to end? Look at who America is picking... I guess never... I guess its all of our fault...
I was given a copy of that movie about a year ago and it was amazing! All the people that had this car loved it and wanted to buy it, yet they were not allowed to buy them, or even keep them. GM forced them to give back the cars and destroyed perfectly good cars. Nice, huh? The reason? Corporate Greed. (think less gasoline sales, no "oil changes" ) How cool would it be to have solar collectors and then use that electricity to power your car, as one person in the movie did?
Watch the movie (to those who haven't seen it yet...)!
I can't help but think if Al Gore was president things might have been different. Now, I don't like Al Gore for his stance on global warming/CO2.. but I do like paying less and helping the environment (less pollution, no smog, no consumption of natural resources, etc.). I am going to get me a Prius... strange that the government doesn't offer any tax advantage anymore for some of these hybrids... government corruption? Of course.
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I have only dial-up and I haven't watched the movie but............
Why does anyone believe that if there truly was a viable replacement for internal combustion power that there woudn't be investment bankers standing in line to finance their construction?
Energy density wise we still have a long way to go to beat gasoline/diesel fuel.
And batteries carry with them their own pros and cons, cost, weight, life-span, environmental manufacturing & disposal issues, and reliability to name just a few.
Some electrics I've seen have great potential for urban short range use but has anyone seen an affordable electric that can be driven virtually non-stop LA to NYC as even the most basic conventional vehicle can be? And do so again and again with relatively little, low cost maintenance?
I'd love to see an alternative that allows us to thumb our collective nose at OPEC but that bandwagon's not moving strongly enough to jump on..........................yet.
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I can't help but think if Al Gore was president things might have been different. Now, I don't like Al Gore for his stance on global warming/CO2.. but I do like paying less and helping the environment (less pollution, no smog, no consumption of natural resources, etc.). I am going to get me a Prius... strange that the government doesn't offer any tax advantage anymore for some of these hybrids... government corruption? Of course.
I'm not sold on the Prius just yet. A year or so ago AutoWeek did a fairly extensive mileage comparison of a number of vehicles that included a Prius, the highest MPG by a fair margin was obtained by a VW TDI Diesel.
We had a thread about a month ago with extensive electric car discussions. If you want to, you probably will be able to purchase one in about 6-10 months:
I have only dial-up and I haven't watched the movie but............
Why does anyone believe that if there truly was a viable replacement for internal combustion power that there woudn't be investment bankers standing in line to finance their construction?
Energy density wise we still have a long way to go to beat gasoline/diesel fuel.
And batteries carry with them their own pros and cons, cost, weight, life-span, environmental manufacturing & disposal issues, and reliability to name just a few.
Some electrics I've seen have great potential for urban short range use but has anyone seen an affordable electric that can be driven virtually non-stop LA to NYC as even the most basic conventional vehicle can be? And do so again and again with relatively little, low cost maintenance?
I'd love to see an alternative that allows us to thumb our collective nose at OPEC but that bandwagon's not moving strongly enough to jump on..........................yet.
From what I saw in the movie, this car was a great alternative for most of us - most of the time. Meaning most people could drive to work and back, with no problem. Plug their car in overnight and be ready to go again. It would not be an alternative for a drive across the country (yet), but it would be a great alternative for me for example. I have a VW New Beetle, and even though it is almost 10 years old now, it only has 40.000 miles on it. So for my purposes, this car would have fit the bill. And if it became available, I would buy it, as my next car.
We had a thread about a month ago with extensive electric car discussions. If you want to, you probably will be able to purchase one in about 6-10 months:
Diesel is not a bad fuel source but I figure that diesel prices will continue to spike with the problems in Iraq. I notice that a LOT of car manufacturers plan to have the PHEV by 2010. The biggest problem is the conditions in the Iraq war, if it continues to be turbulent over there, gas prices will remain high and PHEV will be here. However, if the Iraq war does die down, I fear oil industries and car manufacturers (along with the federal government) will collude to end PHEV. I rather not be tied to the yoke of the oil industry and PHEV is a way to get away from them. Freeing up a lot of oil for other uses like plastic (and possibly cheaper petroleum products as we have less oil dependence). I think Bush made a big mistake in causing the Iraq war because he wanted cheaper oil for his oil "friends" but instead it lead to the revival of the electric car. Oil companies screwed themselves with the war (karma I guess). I hope the conflict in Iraq will persist into 2010. It would be D-day for the oil companies...
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From what I saw in the movie, this car was a great alternative for most of us - most of the time. Meaning most people could drive to work and back, with no problem. Plug their car in overnight and be ready to go again. It would not be an alternative for a drive across the country (yet), but it would be a great alternative for me for example. I have a VW New Beetle, and even though it is almost 10 years old now, it only has 40.000 miles on it. So for my purposes, this car would have fit the bill. And if it became available, I would buy it, as my next car.
Agreed, the type of use you describe is where currently available electric technology fits well, That seems to be a major factor, range. We'll also need to make progress in making charging stations available which could double the effective commuting range of current vehicles if users had a way to recharge while they were at their jobs.
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