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Old 12-02-2015, 08:49 AM
 
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No they don't. They are part of NATO and flexing their muscles.

See how nothing came of the downing of the Russia jet except for a few strong words by NATO ?
See how Merkel is bribing them with money and EU membership ?

Turkey is in the driver's seat here.
you think this is over? it just happened last week.
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Old 12-02-2015, 08:50 AM
 
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mostly stolen from Iraq. you're equating ISIS stealing arms and military equipment we gave to Iraqis with Turkey directly funding ISIS via buying their black market oil - which Erdogan's son and son in law are both in charge of?? oooook
Yeah ok, if you believe they were stolen. Do you also believe those arm shipments that parachuted into Daesh were a 'mistake' as well?
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Old 12-02-2015, 08:53 AM
 
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Yeah ok, if you believe they were stolen. Do you also believe those arm shipments that parachuted into Daesh were a 'mistake' as well?
I'm sorry, do you have proof? the Russian's provided proof including satellite images of oil truck smuggling routes over the course of several months.

I trust you have some concrete evidence that the US government is directly giving ISIS weapons, right??
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Old 12-02-2015, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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you think this is over? it just happened last week.
Here..from last July 2015:

Turkey sends in jets as Syria


Or here..November 2014:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mikegiglio/t...il#.qtAJKjv5wy
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Old 12-02-2015, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Ex-Bostonian in Woodstock, GA
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Live in denial my friend. Truth hurts, doesn't it.

Globes English - Israel buys most oil smuggled from ISIS territory - report

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-isi...israel/5491897
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Old 12-02-2015, 08:58 AM
 
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So, how does the US save face with a constant stream of proof that Turkey is buying and HELPING ISIS?? Turkey's PM offered to resign if there was proof, I believe he may have a resignation letter to start working on.

This makes US and Europe look like idiots. Defending this loose canon just because of some decades old treaty when the stakes are this high is STUPID!
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Old 12-02-2015, 08:59 AM
 
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one of those links wouldn't open for me, it's blocked by my company's firewall. Do you have any actual media sites that confirm this, and not blogs?
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Old 12-02-2015, 09:08 AM
 
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This is no surprise. Of course, Obama new and supported this too since the U.S. has many surveillance satellites watching everything that moves in that area. The pro Turkish side will still deny the obvious and Obama will still back them up. This is the real world we live in. Obama has his own agenda and doesn't want ISIS destroyed. He could have put a stop to this whole oil selling business long ago by bombing the oil fields and trucks but didn't.
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Old 12-02-2015, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I'm sorry, do you have proof? the Russian's provided proof including satellite images of oil truck smuggling routes over the course of several months.

I trust you have some concrete evidence that the US government is directly giving ISIS weapons, right??
Of course no one has "direct" proof. But there's lots of open ended questions.
Where did they get all those shiny new Toyotas from ?
And then there's all those "accidental" droppings of weapons to the wrong side
And only after videos are made public does our government come forward and say "oops..my bad".

Here's one story. Many many more like that out there.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...itants-allege/
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Old 12-02-2015, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Ex-Bostonian in Woodstock, GA
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one of those links wouldn't open for me, it's blocked by my company's firewall. Do you have any actual media sites that confirm this, and not blogs?
ISIS Oil Trade Full Frontal: “Raqqa’s Rockefellers”, Bilal Erdogan, KRG Crude, And The Israel Connection – Jewish Business News

Arab paper claims Israel biggest buyer of Islamic State oil | The Times of Israel

Obviously Israel has been denying this, saying that they in fact buy oil from "the kurds", although it has been coming from oil fields deep in ISIS territory.

You won't hear this on Fox, CNN, or any of the other "media" outlets. Because, Hasbara, ya know.
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