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Old 12-03-2015, 11:51 AM
 
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You have no idea what logic or fact is (a common liberal problem), there is clearly something wrong with you. You've swallowed your liberal propaganda and can't see what reality is. You are obviously blind and deaf to what is actually happening.
They fail to admit the blinding truth: its a cultural problem, specifically African American. You can call me a racist all you want but its the truth and we all know it.

Just stating facts here.

Straight from wikipidia regarding homicide - "The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites"

"blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%"

Hispanics are lumped in with whites.
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Old 12-03-2015, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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If the easy accessibility and pushed down our throat gun culture isn't part of the problem, what is causing all these crazy people to mass murder people? When it does not happen in other first world countries? Mental Illness is not any higher here than else where.
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Old 12-03-2015, 11:59 AM
 
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It's worked great. Gangs (the overwhelming cause of gun violence in the city)
They will get guns from south of the boarder if they have to, gun violence is not going to stop no matter what laws you pass.

And you just proved my point about race.
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Old 12-03-2015, 11:59 AM
 
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The thing about the Lefty/Prog opposition to guns is that they really don’t know what they want, except they want all guns to disappear, except those wielded by cops. So, that’s the first cognitive dissonance.

The second cognitive dissonance is that we couldn’t follow the example of Australia, or Scotland, or some other country even if we wanted to. There must be hundreds of millions of weapons in this country, and even if 90% of Americans willingly forked over their weapons to be melted down into a monument for #BLM, there would still be plenty of weapons floating around for those freaks who do these mass shootings. In fact, the only way you could successfully eradicate weapons ownership in the US would be if you used massive amounts of force, wielded by *cops* with *guns*.

Which leads to the third cognitive dissonance, because, in the event of a gun ban, the vast majority of law abiding citizens would either turn them over or else hide them. It is a certainty that draconian gun control enforcement would have a disparate impact on poorer, less law abiding communities, which among other things means communities of color. Which would inevitably mean more impoverished black folk killed by *cops* with *guns*.

The end state is a further contradiction: We would have an unarmed society supervised by *cops* with *guns*.

Correct, liberals want all guns to disappear by the same people they say are corrupt as we can see in another thread where evidence was planted a thousand times.

Their cognitive development never advanced beyond the magical thinking phase of 7-12 year olds.
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Old 12-03-2015, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Proof is coming out 355 mass shooting's this year alone. More guns do not mean its safer. It just means that average people will have a greater chance of being caught up in the madness.
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Old 12-03-2015, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Liberals are doing it again. Instead of waiting for the facts, asking

Who?
Motive?
Anyone else?
How?

Let the investigation go on, is it work place violence or is it terrorism. And state the facts instead of spinning it for political purposes.
The simple answer, yes, they want all guns banned, then there will be no more killing, life will be peaceful and tranquil and everyone will sit around and sing Kumbaya and all will be right in the world.
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Old 12-03-2015, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Liberals live in a land of academic theory where unassailable logic falls flat in the cold wind of reality. A land of absolutes with no middle ground. An infinite supply of money and zero guns ...along with zero tolerance to the latest social admonition.


Liberals believe there is an infinite linear relationship betwen quality edu and money spent.

No money no educaction

No guns no violence

no voice no racism, and other isms.

No lockstep agreement - no peace

BLM - cops lives not so much

OWS good - taxed enough already bad

violent protests from liberals fine - peaceful protests from conservatives bad

You are absolutely correct that for such an educated (self proclaimed) bunch, they sure harbor simplistic ideas. It's becoming quite clear that progressives are totalitarians (even more than extreme conservatives are authoritarian) They claim to be tolerant, yet they will not tolerate any view but their own; the very definition of a hypocrite.
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The simple answer, yes, they want all guns banned, then there will be no more killing, life will be peaceful and tranquil and everyone will sit around and sing Kumbaya and all will be right in the world.
Clapping wildly

It sure must be nice living in their Candyland delusion.

They won't be singing Kumbaya because it has religious roots, so it'll be more like Puff the Magic Dragon or some other 60's hippy fantasy.
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Old 12-03-2015, 12:07 PM
 
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He is simply trying to address an obvious issue? Watch how President Obama will tap dance around the very obvious issue that these two individuals that committed yesterday's act of terrorism were Muslim. He is ideology selective in the issues he addresses.
Robert Dear wasn't a Muslim and the president spoke out following that shooting, as well, just as he has with Sandy Hook and Charleston and the many, many, many other mass shootings here in the U.S., the vast majority of which were carried out by non-Muslims. Talk about a reach.
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Old 12-03-2015, 12:08 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Do liberals really believe "take away the guns and there will be no more violence"?

Not only do most NOT believe removing the guns would end violence, most have no interest in taking away legally owned guns.



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Originally Posted by petch751 View Post
Liberals are doing it again. Instead of waiting for the facts, asking

Who?
Motive?
Anyone else?
How?

Let the investigation go on, is it work place violence or is it terrorism. And state the facts instead of spinning it for political purposes.
Really?

Liberals are doing it again?

See Post #4 in this thread

HINT: He ain't a liberal, he's a constant complainer about 'liberal this' and 'liberal that' doing EXACTLY what you accuse liberals of doing.

Funny how that works, eh?
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Old 12-03-2015, 12:08 PM
 
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Proof is coming out 355 mass shooting's this year alone. More guns do not mean its safer. It just means that average people will have a greater chance of being caught up in the madness.
There was not 355 mass shootings this year, that is a plain out lie. That would be more than 1 a day. The ONLY way to get that number is to count gang shootings.
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