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Old 12-04-2015, 03:48 PM
 
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The wife; Tafsheen Malik was a burqa (full face veil) wearing Muslim woman.

Ban the burqa, its a national security issue. No one should be allowed to live their lives hiding their face from society in public. The Left will never agree.
Nor those who cherish the freedom to not be you.

 
Old 12-04-2015, 03:50 PM
 
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if you truly believe the US "deserves" Islamic terror, then you are propagating racism, xenophobia and hatred against anyone perceived as this threat that we "deserve".

you can't have it both ways.
 
Old 12-04-2015, 03:55 PM
 
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if you truly believe the US "deserves" Islamic terror, then you are propagating racism, xenophobia and hatred against anyone perceived as this threat that we "deserve".

you can't have it both ways.
The argument is " partially our fault".
 
Old 12-04-2015, 03:56 PM
 
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The argument is " partially our fault".
Why?
America welcomed him and his wife with open arms, job, house, life style, .... what was he mad at America for?
 
Old 12-04-2015, 04:00 PM
 
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The argument is " partially our fault".
if you PARTIALLY believe that the US deserves Islamic terror, then you really can't blame the folks who want to "round 'em all up".

it is human instinct to survive.

I for one don't see how an American born and raised person with a good job and a new family would be justified in murdering his co-workers, or anyone for that matter. But hey, I'm crazy like that.
 
Old 12-04-2015, 04:04 PM
 
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if you PARTIALLY believe that the US deserves Islamic terror, then you really can't blame the folks who want to "round 'em all up".
Terrorists? No, I don't mind.

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it is human instinct to survive.

I for one don't see how an American born and raised person with a good job and a new family would be justified in murdering his co-workers, or anyone for that matter. But hey, I'm crazy like that.
Perhaps we need to wait for the rest of the story to unfold?
 
Old 12-04-2015, 04:27 PM
 
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Why?
America welcomed him and his wife with open arms, job, house, life style, .... what was he mad at America for?
Its not about her, its about why the situation exists in the first place. Without knowing the root cause, there is no chance of finding a resolution.
 
Old 12-04-2015, 04:54 PM
 
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Consider for a moment that a Muslim, Iraqi Army, invaded your city/neighborhood under the premise that the men of your community are terrorists. In the heat of war some of your innocent neighbors and family members are killed, your house is destroyed, large swaths of your neighborhood and city are destroyed with gunfire and explosions. All economy is destroyed as a result, your way of life totally disrupted. You live in a CONSTANT state of terror.

Really think about that, flip the script, and realize that if you wouldn't react violently, willing to strap on a suicide belt, willing to reign terror on the society that just destroyed you, others would. That's what got us into the Iraq war, we watched a bunch of our innocent people die (at the hands of our government), the reaction was natural; "destroy the enemy", and then we proceeded to walk into the biggest mistake the west ever made.

We, the American people are not responsible for this, but our horribly corrupt government is. You can only expect people in any society to act naturally. Every time one of these terrorist attacks happens, be it Paris or San Bernardino, many Americans, myself included, wish to kill some ISIS bastards.

See a double standard?

We live worlds apart and we should remain that way. There's no need for us, an ocean away, to intervene with them, unless there's a hidden agenda which is exactly the case, you can figure that stuff out on your own.
 
Old 12-04-2015, 04:58 PM
 
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Consider for a moment that a Muslim, Iraqi Army, invaded your city/neighborhood under the premise that the men of your community are terrorists. In the heat of war some of your innocent neighbors and family members are killed, your house is destroyed, large swaths of your neighborhood and city are destroyed with gunfire and explosions. All economy is destroyed as a result, your way of life totally disrupted. You live in a CONSTANT state of terror.

Really think about that, flip the script, and realize that if you wouldn't react violently, willing to strap on a suicide belt, willing to reign terror on the society that just destroyed you, others would.

We, the American people are not responsible for this, but our horribly corrupt government is. You can only expect people to act naturally. Every time one of these terrorist attacks happens, be it Paris or San Bernardino, many Americans, myself included, wish kill some ISIS bastards.

See a double standard?

We live worlds apart and we should remain that way. There's no need for us, an ocean away, to intervene with them, unless there's a hidden agenda which is exactly the case, you can figure that stuff out on your own.
The attackers had no affiliation with Iraq, they were of Pakistani descent. How does it justify them attacking US?
 
Old 12-04-2015, 05:07 PM
 
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So those who decide to convert to Islam and become fighters for them, from America, from European countries....your answer is still that they were somehow harmed by America?
How do you know it wasn't their relatives killed in the bombing runs?
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