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Old 12-05-2015, 05:55 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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I support strict gun laws that prevent dangerous people from owning guns. I also support lenient gun laws that allow safe people to own guns. What I don't support are Executive Orders that do either.

 
Old 12-05-2015, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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what part of shall not be infringed do you and other gun grabbers not understand? try reading and understanding the second amendment sometime.
Read that back again and include the "well-regulated militia" part that the NRA refuses to post in their headquarters. Then read Warren Burger's thoughts on it, or even the 2008 Heller decision that still gives the government the right to regulate guns.
 
Old 12-05-2015, 05:59 AM
 
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Hear that sound...it's cash registers.
Obama just sold another ten thousand guns.
It`s Obama`s fault that America has become the Home Of The Coward?
 
Old 12-05-2015, 06:01 AM
 
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His move won't impact me as I only buy from a dealer. I would like to see the statistics that show mass shootings are committed by people who bought their guns by using this alleged loophole. This is basically pandering and show boating. Obama never misses an opportunity to use a crisis to further his agenda. Sadly he never seems to be able actually focus on what the real issues are or what the majority of us want.
It isn`t Obama`s "agenda".....Trying to keep americans safe is HIS JOB.
 
Old 12-05-2015, 06:03 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Excellent move. We can't rely on an irrational GOP-controlled Congress to do what's right. EXECUTIVE ORDERS are an under utilized tool to get things done, and do what's right. Yet another wise decision by our President.

Obama looks to use executive power to close gun loophole - LA Times
"Executive Orders" are not to be used to make law. That is an abuse of power. Executive orders only apply to government body's policies (if used correctly), they do not apply to non-government agencies or private individuals.

Congress must be involved for Obama to make changes to any laws or so-called "loopholes" in any law. He does not have the authority to do these things on his own. That is called "Separation of Powers."

There is no "gun show loophole." People who buy guns at gun shows still must go through the same procedures as when purchasing at a shop. There is no difference.

Kudos to the Republicans for blocking the President's efforts to interfere with our Second Amendment right to bear arms.

The President must take full responsibility for what happened in San Bernardino on Wednesday, because of his failure to take action against Islamic terrorism. Guns are not the problem. Islamic terrorism is, and it is Barack Obama who is allowing these terrorists into our country. It must be stopped.

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Old 12-05-2015, 06:09 AM
 
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Read that back again and include the "well-regulated militia" part that the NRA refuses to post in their headquarters. Then read Warren Burger's thoughts on it, or even the 2008 Heller decision that still gives the government the right to regulate guns.
You mean every white male ( now ever male thanks to the 13th amendment ) between 16 and 60 are required to own and bring a military weapon to the militias gatherings?

Sounds good.
 
Old 12-05-2015, 06:11 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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A wise decision would have been an EO closing all mosques.
 
Old 12-05-2015, 06:12 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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It isn`t Obama`s "agenda".....Trying to keep americans safe is HIS JOB.
I agree completely, it is his job to keep Americans safe. However, I would like to see the statistics he is using that drives this move.
Is it 100% of mass shootings were committed by people who bought guns thru the alleged loophole? Was 50% 25% 1%?
According to this source Gang violence has only increased since Obama became President.
https://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/s...-gang-problems
My point is that maybe he should focus on the gangs. Far more people die every year to Gang violence than to the occasion nut job who bought a gun.
 
Old 12-05-2015, 06:16 AM
 
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Diversity - Failure to assimilate, or selective segregation.

Multiculturalism - Cultural enrichment through national suicide.

Progressiveness - Progress through perversity.

Tolerance - Welcoming your adversaries with open arms and unlimited welfare.

Political correctness - Fools trying to convince each other of their moral superiority through the absurd misuse of our language.(Racism, phobias, haters, ad nauseum).

Liberalism - The philosophy of self-loathing, grasping, sniveling brats and their career victims.

Far-right - Any position toward the political center from Marx-Engels.
 
Old 12-05-2015, 06:16 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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It isn`t Obama`s "agenda".....Trying to keep americans safe is HIS JOB.
Strict gun laws don't work to keep people safe. Look at Chicago, where Obama came from.


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