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Old 12-03-2015, 06:02 PM
 
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It doesn't really help the poor, and coerces the middle class and working poor to buy health insurance, which is mostly useless due to high deductibles and limited coverage. We need some government backed free hospitals to help those who need emergency care but don't have the money. Back in the day, in Chicago, everyone knew that if you had no money but had a medical emergency, you could go to Cook County hospita.

I needed an emergency hernia repair there and was in a bed next to 2 gangbangers who had been shot... they ended up being decent guys to talk to. I was a dishwasher at the time, with of course no health insurance, and could not have afforded it anyway.

Obamacare is really helpful to the healthcare company CEOs though... they need an few extra million just to make ends meet...

'The massive expansion of insurance coverage under the health law and rapid growth in specialty drug spending fueled the uptick in medical costs, officials said. Annual spending growth was 3.7%, on average, during the last five years. The country spent $9,523 per person on healthcare in 2014, including Medicare, Medicaid and private health insurance. That’s far higher than what other developed countries pay, and healthcare spending now accounts for 17.5% of the U.S. economy.'


U.S. Health Spending Hits $3 Trillion as Obamacare and Rising Drug Costs Kick In
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
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No kidding....I though everyone already knew this.....
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Yes yes. That's great and all, except that if Obama has implemented ideas that address issues that Republicans are "complaining" about, they would have demanded what Obamacare currently is -- a free market solution that forces everyone to participate.
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:20 PM
 
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It doesn't really help the poor, and coerces the middle class and working poor to buy health insurance, which is mostly useless due to high deductibles and limited coverage. We need some government backed free hospitals to help those who need emergency care but don't have the money.
Sure sounds like the plan is - once again - to let government handle the cases that private enterprise can't turn a profit on. Socialize the cost, privatize the profits and presto - you get worst of both worlds.
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Obamacare is a tax bill. They hoped to get taxes from companies, like mine and my son's company, that offered "Cadillac plans" to their employees as well as tax people who don't get insurance. So my company and my son's company already cancelled our 'Cadillac plans' too good for Obamacare and has so far cost me an extra $10K because my company is not going to pay that tax. The poor already had Medicaid or just went to hospitals. The actual number of people helped is a drop in the bucket compared to how many people were injured by Obamacare sux.
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Old 12-04-2015, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
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Breaking news: the Earth rotates.
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Old 12-05-2015, 07:40 AM
 
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Yes yes. That's great and all, except that if Obama has implemented ideas that address issues that Republicans are "complaining" about, they would have demanded what Obamacare currently is -- a free market solution that forces everyone to participate.
No "free" market "solution" forces anyone to do anything. A free market solution allows consumers the opportunity to participate freely in an open marketplace where providers can offer plans freely regarding the desired coverages. Bammycare is actually a tax on your very existence.

If you are forced by law to participate you are not free.
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Old 12-05-2015, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Sure sounds like the plan is - once again - to let government handle the cases that private enterprise can't turn a profit on. Socialize the cost, privatize the profits and presto - you get worst of both worlds.
Absolutely spot on Dane.

Obamacare is just the way the health insurance racket wants it. The current system has a few advantages to what preceded it, but the cartel is still not forced to abandon their predatory system of coverage. Just the way Republicans want it.
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Old 12-05-2015, 08:53 AM
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Location: Suburban Dallas
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It's forced government on your life and on my life.

It needs desperately to be repealed.
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