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Old 12-07-2015, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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None of which explains the 60's or 70's. Seriously you can't just claim "It was all the war destroying everything!", and completely ignore the actual data. The world recovered quickly.
You just don't get it -- the world recovered, but the American/Canadian monopoly on high-tech and mass production was shattered -- never to be re-institutued by political hacks, We have to compete in a global economy -- and that spells the end for "soft" low-demand jobs, "protected" by a government-backed union monopoly.

There are plenty of "good" jobs out there, but they're found in consumer-driven sectors like health care, where a high level of responsibility and discipline are mandatory. If you can't handle, or empathize with that, there are fields like distribution or utilities, but these industries don't run on the limited 9-to-5 schedule to which a lot of conformist suburbanites (or "trailing spouses" with household and family responsibilities) are limited. And some of us are always going to be stuck -- temporarily or permanently -- in places like retail shops and call centers; either that or the wasteland that runs on "entitlements".

The "Pax Americana", as we knew it, is over; it should have been obvious that it was too good, and too phony to last. And Donald Trump isn't going to be able to restore it any more than "Bernie" Sanders.

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Old 12-07-2015, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Liberals keep parroting meaningless statistics like "The X richest people own Y% of the wealth". My question is, why do you consider this an issue?
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They are jealous. Jealous of what other people have. It's that simple.
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Old 12-07-2015, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Granted his efforts weren't feeble but I just read where Lebron James signed a record lifetime contract with Nike.
I know we've got you on the ropes when sports and film celebrities start being used as examples of success that everyone can be inspired by. And billionaires, self-made or not... really... 362 million vs. 424... excuse me if I don't take it as a mark of personal failure that I am not a self-made billionaire. And neither are you I suspect. In fact... why should we accept as credible the assertions of numerous starters of threads like this, none of whom are even in the 5% let alone the 0.1%? How would someone in the 50% be qualified to know that, in fact, there really is nothing wrong with the present income and wealth structure? Normal attainment shaming by normal people, gotta love it. Please excuse me if I don't get on the self-hate bandwagon.
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Old 12-07-2015, 08:41 PM
 
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They are jealous. Jealous of what other people have. It's that simple.
An intellectual!!!
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Old 12-07-2015, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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They are jealous. Jealous of what other people have. It's that simple.
Both Bill Gates and Warren Buffett believe that taxes on the wealthy should be much higher. Are they jealous of what other people have?
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Old 12-07-2015, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Both Bill Gates and Warren Buffett believe that taxes on the wealthy should be much higher. Are they jealous of what other people have?
If they really believed that they would send the government a check. There is nothing stopping them from sending a check. They are hypocrites.
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Old 12-07-2015, 08:49 PM
 
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If they really believed that they would send the government a check. There is nothing stopping them from sending a check. They are hypocrites.
Regardless whatever they decide to do with their money, they have zero right to tell others what to do with theirs.
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Old 12-07-2015, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Regardless whatever they decide to do with their money, they have zero right to tell others what to do with theirs.
They have every right to have an opinion on public policy.
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Old 12-07-2015, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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If they really believed that they would send the government a check. There is nothing stopping them from sending a check. They are hypocrites.
It is true if you want to pay down the debt, you could send the government a check:

https://www.pay.gov/public/form/start/23779454

I would say though that Gates has spent his money doing good things.
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Old 12-07-2015, 08:55 PM
 
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I know we've got you on the ropes when sports and film celebrities start being used as examples of success that everyone can be inspired by. And billionaires, self-made or not... really... 362 million vs. 424... excuse me if I don't take it as a mark of personal failure that I am not a self-made billionaire. And neither are you I suspect. In fact... why should we accept as credible the assertions of numerous starters of threads like this, none of whom are even in the 5% let alone the 0.1%? How would someone in the 50% be qualified to know that, in fact, there really is nothing wrong with the present income and wealth structure? Normal attainment shaming by normal people, gotta love it. Please excuse me if I don't get on the self-hate bandwagon.
If I had to pick a time and place in history with the best options for a prosperous life, I choose here and now. Excuse me if I don't jump on the victimhood, woe-is-me, the cards are stacked against me bandwagon because I don't buy it.
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