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Why wasn't there a similar blowback from Vietnam or Philippines, oh right they don't follow the death cult of Islam.
I remember when Vietnamese and Philippinos flew jets into our buildings, joined the military to get a degree only to kill fellow soldiers at Fort Hood, and put out hits on people who spoke against them. Terrible of them.
For those of you who think what Carter did is exactly what Trump is calling for - put on your thinking caps. Carter's ban on Iranian immigrants DID NOT INCLUDE anti-shiite or anti-Khomeini refugees and it also allowed those in that had medical reasons. Soooooo (keep those thinking caps on), if Trump would do like Carter - then he would allow Muslims in who have a health reason and those who are anti-ISIS. Yay! Even though he is proven wrong again, Trump is proven right!!!! Yay!!!
Who says Trump would have to follow Carter's lead to the letter? I think the relevant thing here is that Carter focused on the nation instead of its religion. This is Trump's road map towards making his idea into reality. Doesn't mean he can't adjust it to fit in with the current situation.
For those of you who think what Carter did is exactly what Trump is calling for - put on your thinking caps. Carter's ban on Iranian immigrants DID NOT INCLUDE anti-shiite or anti-Khomeini refugees and it also allowed those in that had medical reasons. Soooooo (keep those thinking caps on), if Trump would do like Carter - then he would allow Muslims in who have a health reason and those who are anti-ISIS. Yay! Even though he is proven wrong again, Trump is proven right!!!! Yay!!!
That point seems to be lost in both the article and the subsequent responses, he did not ban an entire religion, he did not ban an entire nation, quite different. Since they were holding hostages from our embassy at the time an entire ban on Iranian citizens might have made sense but he showed moderation.
The history of US/Iran relations isn't very pretty for the US Government. Overthrowing Democratically elected leaders, propping up brutal Dictators and religious zealots. Our Federal Government often seems like a rogue Government overseas, murdering thousands in The Middle East, Latin America and Asia. It is truly sickening.
Maybe the concept of "blowback" is 100% accurate and we should stop allowing our Government to constantly meddle in the affairs of other nations, using our tax money to blow up entire regions and rebuild them-with private contractors/no bid contracts overcharging everything no less.
Are you talking about how Obama and Hillary interfered in Libya, leaving in there wake a lawless, civil war torn mess.
Why wasn't there a similar blowback from Vietnam or Philippines, oh right they don't follow the death cult of Islam.
The most radical Islamist mostly come from a favorite country of our Government-Saudi Arabia.
Indonesia is very Muslim and our Government has not been kind to them yet there are not many terrorists from there. It is the Wahhabi element in Islam-born in oil rich Saudi Arabia and supported by others like Qatar.
Nearly all Muslim groups are against ISIS-including terrorist groups yet our Government is more concerned with removing Assad from power than fighting ISIS. It is the same story over and over. Our Government (really controlled by an economic cabal of banks, energy and war corporations) likes to put tyrants in power that will do as they say.
Are you talking about how Obama and Hillary interfered in Libya, leaving in there wake a lawless, civil war torn mess.
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And that is just as reprehensible. I stopped supporting Obama in 2009 for what it's worth. As soon as I realized Obama was following the Bush Doctrine in the Middle East tit for tat, and even expanding on it I started speaking out against him. Re-appointing Bush's pick as the Chairman of The Fed showed again that Obama is merely a puppet like most politicians.
Carter banned Iranians and not a religion even though they were Muslims. It needs to be reframed as banning potential terrorists or something similar to get traction away from the PC nazis.
Who says Trump would have to follow Carter's lead to the letter? I think the relevant thing here is that Carter focused on the nation instead of its religion. This is Trump's road map towards making his idea into reality. Doesn't mean he can't adjust it to fit in with the current situation.
"Carter focused on the nation instead of its religion"
In the case of an "Islamic Republic" it's one in the same, that is why they are called an "Islamic Republic" The Religion is infused in the Government. Your thinking in Western terms, which doesn't work when your are looking at an Islamic Theocracy.
Who says Trump would have to follow Carter's lead to the letter? I think the relevant thing here is that Carter focused on the nation instead of its religion. This is Trump's road map towards making his idea into reality. Doesn't mean he can't adjust it to fit in with the current situation.
Trump may unwillingly create a roadmap for other people and religions being banned.
It is a dangerous precedent, and the complete opposite of what this country stands for.
Who says Trump would have to follow Carter's lead to the letter? I think the relevant thing here is that Carter focused on the nation instead of its religion. This is Trump's road map towards making his idea into reality. Doesn't mean he can't adjust it to fit in with the current situation.
Yes... but he should have named countries; not a religion or ideology.
Even if you believe the latter is right, it would be impossible to completely enforce; people will just lie, and get away with it. Just look at how the jihadi mommy lied about her address and had no problem getting in without question.
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