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Old 12-14-2015, 09:01 AM
 
Location: London
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Originally Posted by Casper in Dallas View Post
Do some research all the information is out there for you to learn, be creative you would be surprised how much one can store if done properly and it does not take as much room if done right as you may think, and practice the skills so you know what to di if and/or when you need them, oh, and you will have to get off the couch.
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You could start with these~


Lights Out: A Cyberattack, A Nation Unprepared, Surviving the Aftermath byTed Koppel
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When The Grid Goes Down: Disaster Preparations and Survival Gear For Making Your Home Self-Reliant by Tony Nester
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The Ultimate Survival Manual (Outdoor Life): 333 Skills that Will Get You Out Alive by Rich Johnson
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One Second After by William R. Forstchen
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77 Days in September (The Kyle Tait Series)by Ray Gorham
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This is where a lot of people get into a "trickbag". It depends on your specific situation. If you are in the middle of no where and people are far away you will probably be ok for a while. If you are in an apartment in the city and the roads are gridlocked you won't last long.

My situation is a small town ten miles from the nearest city. I have slowly been able to find a few like minded people in my neighborhood by meeting them at neighborhood gatherings/parties. It would be ideal to get half the households on board so we could work together if some type of event occurred. That will have to happen slowly, however 80 percent of the households have firearms so we could defend the neighborhood. The problem is when neighbors start running out of food and water.
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Or you could just join the Scouts. I've been a member of BSA for twenty-some years as an adult, and I was a Girl Scout in my youth. I can definitely gather wood and build a fire.

Really, though, there are plenty of resources for learning survival skills, and you'd be surprised to find just how creative you can be when necessary. Don't underestimate your own ingenuity.
Thanks guys. I suppose it'd be a good idea to get all these survival guides in print, and then find somewhere I can practice all the various skills. And it's another reason to move out of San Francisco.
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Old 12-14-2015, 10:06 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Thanks guys. I suppose it'd be a good idea to get all these survival guides in print, and then find somewhere I can practice all the various skills. And it's another reason to move out of San Francisco.

You're very welcome.
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Old 12-15-2015, 12:38 AM
 
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Thanks guys. I suppose it'd be a good idea to get all these survival guides in print, and then find somewhere I can practice all the various skills. And it's another reason to move out of San Francisco.
Yep being in a large city is not going to be a good place to be in any type of serious event like an emp etc
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Old 12-15-2015, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Wouldn't there be a lot of (armed) home invasions and looting though? If there's no electricity, there's no police. Say goodbye to all the prepper's stockpile.

I guess everyone would have to have a gun, and it'd essentially be kill or be killed.

Ultimately though, even if there's no looting, eventually we'd have to have survival skills.

How does one even go about learning essential survival skills? I guess we need a Boy Scouts for adults of some sort.

And how would anyone have enough room for all the prepping stockpile? We live in a 435sf studio with an electric stove.

There's no way around it, my partner and I are screwed. Lol
plenty of books out there

try to see about downloading FM 21-76 (Army Field Manual for Survival)
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Old 12-15-2015, 11:30 AM
 
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The good news is the odds of a grid collapse are pretty damn remote.

However, preparing for something like a grid collapse will help you in other situations such as a hurricane, tornado, earth quake, pandemic, social upheaval, etc.

I see this type of prep as insurance. Something you spend an acceptable amount of time and money on that you hope you never utilize.

I've read a number of news stories where water supplies have been compromised by line breaks or contamination. Having a way to purify water can come in handy for this and many other situations. Unless you are in a tiny space, you're talking about very little room and not much money.

Rotating canned food isn't difficult and a person can easily be able to have a month's worth if a decent pantry/closet scenario.

Everybody should have a decent first aid kit, but most people don't.

Basic prepping isn't that tough, expensive or time consuming.

Better to have it and not use it than need it and not have it.
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Old 12-15-2015, 11:46 AM
 
Location: MS
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I give it 3 days. That's why I have stocked up on water. Food. Guns. And ammo.
That's where the saying "9 days to anarchy" comes from.
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Old 12-15-2015, 11:53 AM
 
Location: MS
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Wouldn't there be a lot of (armed) home invasions and looting though? If there's no electricity, there's no police. Say goodbye to all the prepper's stockpile.

I guess everyone would have to have a gun, and it'd essentially be kill or be killed.

Ultimately though, even if there's no looting, eventually we'd have to have survival skills.

How does one even go about learning essential survival skills? I guess we need a Boy Scouts for adults of some sort.

And how would anyone have enough room for all the prepping stockpile? We live in a 435sf studio with an electric stove.

There's no way around it, my partner and I are screwed. Lol
In a grid down situation I would defend my preps.

We have a Preparedness section here at City-Data. Go to YouTube. I like the Sensible Prepper channel but the Urban Prepper channel may fit your needs.

That is smaller than my bedroom. The flooring guys figured 485sf.
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Old 12-16-2015, 04:12 PM
 
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There is a story out today that the Camden County (Mo) sheriff and the FBI are investigating that several middle-eastern men were inquiring about Bagnell Dam. It provides electricity to much of central Missouri and if blown up, hundreds, if not thousands could die from the flood.
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Old 12-16-2015, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Taos NM
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Actually System Operators everywhere plan and practice for attacks on the grid both physical and cyber. FERC requires planning for it. I for one don't think it will help the whole country but perhaps we will keep some of the lights on....
This. The responsibility falls squarely on the electrical utilities, and they have been preparing for it. An EMP would be godawful, but it wouldn't take everything out. They have backups and stopgates. But it is a definite issue that needs to be be routinely addressed and prepared for.
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Old 12-17-2015, 05:09 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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This. The responsibility falls squarely on the electrical utilities, and they have been preparing for it. An EMP would be godawful, but it wouldn't take everything out. They have backups and stopgates. But it is a definite issue that needs to be be routinely addressed and prepared for.

Since when, and where is this info?


All my research results say that the US is absolutely NOT prepared for an EMP!
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