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Old 12-10-2015, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by cuebald View Post
I'm sure his lawyers are up nights working on it.

2A is not absolute. Even the Heller decision in 2008 made it clear that the government can regulate guns without compromising 2A. If Congress was to vote to make all assault-style rifles, handguns, and any gun with a capacity of over five rounds illegal for private ownership, 2A would still be intact. If they outlawed everything except muzzleloaders, 2A would still be what it is supposed to be.

Also, ammunition is not covered under 2A. It could be banned completely in private hands, or controlled so that documented paperwork had to accompany its movement at all times, and so that spent cartridges had to be turned in to buy more, and it would have no impact on 2A.
so the idea of the fascist liberals it to BAN, ""all assault-style rifles, handguns, and any gun with a capacity of over five"" and ""ammunition is not covered under 2A. It could be banned completely in private hands""

why do the fascist liberals want to do like the fascist Nazi's and the Stalinists' of the USSR and take guns away???

why are the fascist liberal so stern on having the totalitarian government like they always push for

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"""This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilised nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!""" A. Hitler
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""""In relation to the political decontamination of our public life, the government will embark upon a systematic campaign to restore the nation’s moral and material health. The whole educational system, theater, film, literature, the press and broadcasting – all these will be used as a means to this end."""" A. Hitler
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country." --Adolf Hitler, dinner talk on April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk 1941-44: His Private Conversations


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Nazi Weapons Act of 1938 (Translated to English)

Classified guns for "sporting purposes".
All citizens who wished to purchase firearms had to register with the Nazi officials and have a background check.
Presumed German citizens were hostile and thereby exempted Nazis from the gun control law.
Gave Nazis unrestricted power to decide what kinds of firearms could, or could not be owned by private persons.
The types of ammunition that were legal were subject to control by bureaucrats.
Juveniles under 18 years could not buy firearms and ammunition.
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"Gun registration is not enough. Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal." Janet Reno




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"A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device
to deny gun ownership to the people." Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
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"Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed
when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed." Sarah Brady

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"There is no reason for anyone in this country -- anyone except a police officer or military person -- to buy, to own, to have, to use a handgun. The only way to control handgun use in this country is to prohibit the guns." Bill Clinton

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"We're bending the law as far as we can
to ban an entirely new class of guns." Rahm Emmanuel
the anti-gun people (and yes many are liberals) never can figure out that they are hurting the law abiding citizens, because crooks/criminals/scum dont care about the laws or restrictions on getting a gun


Communist Rules for Revolution:

1. Corrupt the young; get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial; destroy their ruggedness.
2. By specious argument cause the breakdown of old moral virtues; honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness.
3. Encourage civil disorders and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.
4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.
5. Get people's minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books, plays, and other trivialities.
6. Get control of all means of publicity.
7. Destroy the people's faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and obloquy (disgrace).
8. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscation and leaving the population helpless.





yep liberals (fascists) and their goal to disarm the people
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Old 12-10-2015, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Idk, nothing can prevent the really crazy mass shootings in my opinion. However, gun violence in inner cities has gone down in all states that have enacted their own restrictions.
Chicago???

up and going up more and more...
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Old 12-10-2015, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Idk, nothing can prevent the really crazy mass shootings in my opinion. However, gun violence in inner cities has gone down in all states that have enacted their own restrictions.
"Gun violence" has been dropping everywhere in the US for decades. Some inner cities finally catching up with the rest of the country - where there are more gun owners and more people with carry permits than ever - is hardly something to brag about.
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Old 12-10-2015, 08:09 PM
 
Location: MS
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A lot of us have been saying for a long time that either the gun fetishists are going to participate in a national dialogue on what to do about the murder rate and mass shootings in the U.S., or they are going to get steamrolled by the tidal wave of popular support for measures to address the issue.

Looks like President Obama is getting ready to pounce on it, since the GOP is incapable of voting unless the NRA tells them how. His proposals won't solve the problems entirely, but every little bit helps. Doing nothing is not an option.

A Disgusted President Obama Will Act Alone And Take Executive Action On Guns
I read the article and there is no mention of registration. Universal background checks can't be enforced without it.
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Old 12-10-2015, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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There is a gun buying frenzy going on.

Anti-gun liberals are a gun dealers best friend.
False paranoia is the best friend of the gun companies, been hearing the government is coming for your guns for 7 years and nothing, not one thing but keep stocking up stay paranoid!
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Old 12-10-2015, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Do you think unilateral action regarding a Constitutional right is not something to be worried about? It's the one you may not like today. What's next? We don't need new laws. We need the laws we currently have to be enforced. It's really that simple.
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Old 12-10-2015, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Shall not be infringed.
Go read through the Heller decision again.
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Old 12-10-2015, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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so the idea of the fascist liberals it to BAN, ""all assault-style rifles, handguns, and any gun with a capacity of over five"" and ""ammunition is not covered under 2A. It could be banned completely in private hands""

why do the fascist liberals want to do like the fascist Nazi's and the Stalinists' of the USSR and take guns away???

why are the fascist liberal so stern on having the totalitarian government like they always push for





"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country." --Adolf Hitler, dinner talk on April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk 1941-44: His Private Conversations




















the anti-gun people (and yes many are liberals) never can figure out that they are hurting the law abiding citizens, because crooks/criminals/scum dont care about the laws or restrictions on getting a gun


Communist Rules for Revolution:

1. Corrupt the young; get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial; destroy their ruggedness.
2. By specious argument cause the breakdown of old moral virtues; honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness.
3. Encourage civil disorders and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.
4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.
5. Get people's minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books, plays, and other trivialities.
6. Get control of all means of publicity.
7. Destroy the people's faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and obloquy (disgrace).
8. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscation and leaving the population helpless.





yep liberals (fascists) and their goal to disarm the people
Did you even read anything? That was an analysis of 2A. If you think I'm wrong about it, tell me why you think it's wrong - don't go off spouting about fascists.
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Old 12-10-2015, 08:32 PM
 
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Originally Posted by cuebald View Post
A lot of us have been saying for a long time that either the gun fetishists are going to participate in a national dialogue on what to do about the murder rate and mass shootings in the U.S., or they are going to get steamrolled by the tidal wave of popular support for measures to address the issue.

Looks like President Obama is getting ready to pounce on it, since the GOP is incapable of voting unless the NRA tells them how. His proposals won't solve the problems entirely, but every little bit helps. Doing nothing is not an option.

A Disgusted President Obama Will Act Alone And Take Executive Action On Guns
No one needs to tell anyone how to vote...just read the bill of rights!
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