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Old 12-14-2015, 09:22 AM
 
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Ummm, wonder why no one is speaking about this.....seems this would knock Cruz right off the charts. Interesting stuff!
I believe Cruz worked for 2 law firms in the past that lobbied congress. He was a lobbyist himself.
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:24 AM
 
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In my humble opinion, H1B is a total disaster.

For those outside the industry, a programmer is a programmer is a programmer. Contracting for a programmer at $80/hour looks like a better deal than one at $90/hour.

Second, contractors are rarely held accountable. The big ones are skilled at contracts that get them off the hook, especially when they know the project will be a disaster. This is particularly easy in the body-per-hour billing model.

I am assuming companies should want quality, but not quantity. But reality is simply not the case. We see the demand for H1B programmers, the cheap, incompetent programmers mean maximum profit for cosulting companies.
IME, many of these 'contracts' assume that the work is fungible, and that all bidders are equally qualified.

the name of the game for consultants is to provide the bare minimum while not getting sued.

i've heard people accuse IBM, for example, of actively pursuing a policy of ignoring the contract's details and betting that the client won't sue.
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:27 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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We need to do it like Japan, the Government there allows companies to hires those who have a visa however they pay 25% more to each foreigner they hire, they do not have a oversized foreigner workforce for a reason which is that.
If we did that... US employers would just misclassify jobs to get to 25% below market. I keep watching H1B workers get screwed by LCA misclassification (which, in turn, hurts me as their misclassification supports my own employer misclassifying my role).
Just a couple of weeks ago a guy was hired locally on an H1B as a level II computer operator... for a position that required a scripting language, two programming languages, advanced degree, several years of experience, and included duties across multiple teams and technical lead duties. Should have been a computer programmer class or at least a level IV computer operator, but it went through as computer operator. But the employer holds even more power in that situation than a typical domestic employer.
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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We need to do it like Japan, the Government there allows companies to hires those who have a visa however they pay 25% more to each foreigner they hire, they do not have a oversized foreigner workforce for a reason which is that.
The majority of H1B recipients are foreign consulting companies. US companies pay more than a 25% premium to the consulting company.
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:31 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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B. H-1B's aren't immigrants. It is a "Non immigrant visa." This is not some minor distinction, either.
But it is dual intent eligible, which makes is really popular for skilled migrant workers. Meanwhile, H2B workers get even more screwed and never get a chance to immigrate even if they want to. Making H2B dual intent would have its own host of problems, but it would sure be an easy fix to our current illegal immigration issues. Of course, it will never happen.
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:33 AM
 
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This visa is NOTHING but a shiny example of corporate greed in this land. Third world countries have stolen our wealth. Time to throw leaders who support this pillage to this day.
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:33 AM
 
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But it is dual intent eligible, which makes is really popular for skilled migrant workers. Meanwhile, H2B workers get even more screwed and never get a chance to immigrate even if they want to. Making H2B dual intent would have its own host of problems, but it would sure be an easy fix to our current illegal immigration issues. Of course, it will never happen.
"Intent" is pointless if there's an incentive for the visa-sponsoring firm not to sponsor a green card.

If 90% of H-1B's were becoming citizens, that could be construed as evidence that the system wasn't totally broken. But the reality is closer to 1%, based on the data I've seen
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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The current system is broken and may discourage companies from hiring American workers.

Give me a break, The idea behind the H-1B visa is you’re supposed to protect American workers by setting a prevailing wage and not letting it be undercut. what you are seeing now is that the prevailing wage is undercut.

Also, my ex boyfriend's projects (all of them) have been moved to India. The outsourcing of projects is a trend.
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I want to say it again, Ted Cruz was for Amnesty, H1B and Open Borders until it became political suicide.

His top donors are the Open Borders Lobby and that has not changed
Cruz advocated for quintupling the number of new annual H1B visas. He got a lot of flack from influential talk radio hosts and now says he is against increasing until the H1 B visa is reformed which is blah- blah.

If I am not mistaken, with the exception of Bernie, all the 2016 are in favor of increasing H1B visas and Bernie has no chance.
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Name a generation that votes against their own interests more than Millenials.

I assume that is rhetorical as there isn't one...
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