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Old 12-16-2015, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Having immigration isn't the issue. The way our current laws are set up allows them to pay below minimum wage, and it also doesn't punish them for any illegal practices. If you go after the employers, you change how the system is run. Unfortunately our farming industry is run by crony capitalism with deep pockets for politicians to fit into, thus many of them in Congress would fight against any of these changes.
Supply and demand it's that simple. Flood the market and wages go down.

It's time to put Trump in DC. I firmly believe he will stop this insanity.
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Old 12-16-2015, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Well that is what happens when we let corporations control the country's farms and make it harder for family farm to run. It is also hard to find anyone that is willing to work below minimum wage in the fields anymore, which is why they often times have to be imported.

Though this is another example of things we should be spending money to crack down on rather than beefing up our military. If our farming industry was forced to pay a more living wage, those jobs would have a better chance of going to Americans. Unfortunately I have yet to really see anyone in politics care about this issue.
No, it happens because YOU continue to vote the same people into office election after election.

Trump says he will put a stop to this sort of garbage, which I believe he would be fully capable of doing, but the people who lost their jobs will refuse to vote Trump because he right wing and they always voted democrat. They are simply getting what they voted for. Hard to feel sorry for em.
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Old 12-16-2015, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Supply and demand it's that simple. Flood the market and wages go down.

It's time to put Trump in DC. I firmly believe he will stop this insanity.
You mean the man who likes to use low wage workers in other countries to make his junk he sells to people?
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Old 12-16-2015, 11:53 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No, it happens because YOU continue to vote the same people into office election after election.

Trump says he will put a stop to this sort of garbage, which I believe he would be fully capable of doing, but the people who lost their jobs will refuse to vote Trump because he right wing and they always voted democrat. They are simply getting what they voted for. Hard to feel sorry for em.
Seeing that Trump has been doing a great jobs lying throughout his entire campaign, I am sure he is gonna "put a stop to this." He has proven to be an "excellent" negotiator.
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Old 12-17-2015, 12:00 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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Trump uses H-2 to bring in hotel and gold course staff. Why hasn't he been called on it?
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Old 12-17-2015, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Trump uses H-2 to bring in hotel and gold course staff. Why hasn't he been called on it?
That is because the Trumpets give Trump the Birther a pass every time he lies or does something that contradicts what he says.
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Old 12-17-2015, 06:33 AM
 
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One way to force them to pay a "livable" wage is to not have immigration to start with.

Somehow I see wages magically rising to get workers needed to pick crops.

And no the "farmers" will not just stop planting.

Our immigration system is exploitation of foreigners and just screwing American workers.

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Old 12-17-2015, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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You mean the man who likes to use low wage workers in other countries to make his junk he sells to people?
You mean like the people who run Apple computer?
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Old 12-17-2015, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Trump uses H-2 to bring in hotel and gold course staff. Why hasn't he been called on it?
Actually the Marriott Hotel chain is the biggest user of H2 visas.
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Old 12-17-2015, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You mean like the people who run Apple computer?
Yep.
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