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I support gun rights, I just have a hard time understanding why you need an assault weapon to protect you from criminals?
Even though criminals have them, I'm just trying to think of a scenario where the average gun owner needs to use an assault weapon to protect himself. I guess if you are worried about a total breakdown of society..
Well 1. I enjoy defensive weapons 2. Its my constitutional right 3. Why wouldn't I want to have a rifle if the criminal does? And they will....gun control laws DON'T work now that much is obvious so why would they work when you take the rifles from law abiding citizens? Criminals will still find ways to get them. 4. I don't trust ANY government that wants to disarm its citizens....why would you? Unless you intend to harm them NO GOVERNMENT has ever disarmed its citizens for the good of the citizen. CRIMINALS will ALWAYS have guns. PERIOD. Criminals with guns-CHECK,Government with guns-CHECK,Law Abiding Citizens with guns-NOPE..Gee. What could POSSIBLY go bad there?
I support gun rights but I really have a hard time seeing why assault weapons should be legal. There is no scenario that I can think of where someone needs one of these.
Self defense? Against what, a zombie horde? Just to own it because you can? I don't see where the risk of the weapon falling into the wrong hands because it wasn't secured
well or the owner has a mental breakdown or something is worth it. These weapons are, by design, exponentially more lethal than a handgun or a rifle.
We get a kick out of people like you that start the post with "I support gun rights" but then you dont.
You have a hard time; there is no scenario; and on and on about a subject you clearly don't understand.
Self defense is a valid need.
Zombies?
My affinity for guns may be different than my neighbor's. I have been an affectionado since the Seventies.
A firearm is the ultimate handheld machine. Their lockworks are ingenious.
They are designed to withstand incredible stesses reliably, and they are amazing to behold.
I enjoy all things mechanical. I like to take things apart and put them back together. That describes gun use and maintenance.
As you say, "I own it just because I can". I can afford them. It's my right, and is beyond needing your approval.
I like guitars as well. Do you have a hard time seeing why I need a Rickenbacker when a Fender would get the job done?
Again it's none of your business. I can afford them.
Spare me a retort that guitars can't kill. A Strat swung right would kill instantly.
I find it annoying to have to dispute posters that don't understand the differences, definitions, or ballistics of various weapons.
All firearms are lethal. That isn't a defect, that is superb design.
Try to educate yourself. Ask a friend that shoots if you can go to a gun range with them. Learn something new.
We get a kick out of people like you that start the post with "I support gun rights" but then you dont.
You have a hard time; there is no scenario; and on and on about a subject you clearly don't understand.
Self defense is a valid need.
Zombies?
My affinity for guns may be different than my neighbor's. I have been an affectionado since the Seventies.
A firearm is the ultimate handheld machine. Their lockworks are ingenious.
They are designed to withstand incredible stesses reliably, and they are amazing to behold.
I enjoy all things mechanical. I like to take things apart and put them back together. That describes gun use and maintenance.
As you say, "I own it just because I can". I can afford them. It's my right, and is beyond needing your approval.
I like guitars as well. Do you have a hard time seeing why I need a Rickenbacker when a Fender would get the job done?
Again it's none of your business. I can afford them.
Spare me a retort that guitars can't kill. A Strat swung right would kill instantly.
I find it annoying to have to dispute posters that don't understand the differences, definitions, or ballistics of various weapons.
All firearms are lethal. That isn't a defect, that is superb design.
Try to educate yourself. Ask a friend that shoots if you can go to a gun range with them. Learn something new.
Self defense is a valid need. Fine. I can agree with that. I just have a hard time understanding what possible self defense scenario would require an assault rifle designed for combat.
The next argument is people own them because they can.
My issue with that is the ease at which some people buy them for hobbies means other people can buy them and shoot up schools or movie theatres.
And I really don't care what you find annoying or don't. I am expressing my opinion on the subject in a public forum. Those are my FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS!
If you find my opinions annoying no one says you have to read them or respond to them.
I also don't need you or anyone else to define what "I support gun rights" means to me.
Yeah... I believe there should be limits. People shouldn't be allowed to buy tanks or rocket launchers just because they can afford it or they admire the mechanical workmanship either.
My opinion is a gun that fires bullets in rapid succession that was designed for combat should be one of those limits as well.
We can get into stupid arguments about "everything can be lethal" or "criminals will get guns anyway" but when someone can buy a military grade assault weapon for a hobby, the fact is that some nutcase can also buy one and then shoot up a school or a workplace or a movie theatre and cause massive casualties.
Self defense is a valid need. Fine. I can agree with that. I just have a hard time understanding what possible self defense scenario would require an assault rifle designed for combat.
The next argument is people own them because they can.
My issue with that is the ease at which some people buy them for hobbies means other people can buy them and shoot up schools or movie theatres.
And I really don't care what you find annoying or don't. I am expressing my opinion on the subject in a public forum. Those are my FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS!
If you find my opinions annoying no one says you have to read them or respond to them.
I also don't need you or anyone else to define what "I support gun rights" means to me.
Yeah... I believe there should be limits. People shouldn't be allowed to buy tanks or rocket launchers just because they can afford it or they admire the mechanical workmanship either.
My opinion is a gun that fires bullets in rapid succession that was designed for combat should be one of those limits as well.
We can get into stupid arguments about "everything can be lethal" or "criminals will get guns anyway" but when someone can buy a military grade assault weapon for a hobby, the fact is that some nutcase can also buy one and then shoot up a school or a workplace or a movie theatre and cause massive casualties.
I can almost guarantee that no one here owns an assault rife that is designed for combat.
Right, so if two individuals have a mental breakdown and walk into a crowded area and start shooting people. One of them has a deer rifle and the other has an AK47, which of them is more dangerous?
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Key word being "if shot"
I think I'd have a much greater chance of being hit with an AK47
that depends on the deer rifle being used. some are semi autos, and fire just as many rounds per second as the AK does. as i said you have no clue what you are talking about, so please stop embarrassing yourself until such time as you get an education.
We get a kick out of people like you that start the post with "I support gun rights" but then you dont.
You have a hard time; there is no scenario; and on and on about a subject you clearly don't understand. Self defense is a valid need.
Zombies?
My affinity for guns may be different than my neighbor's. I have been an affectionado since the Seventies.
A firearm is the ultimate handheld machine. Their lockworks are ingenious.
They are designed to withstand incredible stesses reliably, and they are amazing to behold.
I enjoy all things mechanical. I like to take things apart and put them back together. That describes gun use and maintenance.
As you say, "I own it just because I can". I can afford them. It's my right, and is beyond needing your approval.
I like guitars as well. Do you have a hard time seeing why I need a Rickenbacker when a Fender would get the job done?
Again it's none of your business. I can afford them.
Spare me a retort that guitars can't kill. A Strat swung right would kill instantly.
I find it annoying to have to dispute posters that don't understand the differences, definitions, or ballistics of various weapons.
All firearms are lethal. That isn't a defect, that is superb design.
Try to educate yourself. Ask a friend that shoots if you can go to a gun range with them. Learn something new.
Everyone should know how to defend themselves. Some think they need guns to do that....some don't.
A rifle that's capable of killing or wounding lots of people by rapidly firing bullets from a clip without the need to worry about aiming as much.
Before someone says that both are lethal..
Behind door number one is a large room with a man shooting at you with a handgun.
Behind door number two is a large room with a man shooting at you with an assault weapon.
If you had to pick which door that you had to run to the opposite side with the best chance of survival
which would you pick?
I've never seen an "assault weapon" with a clip. Nor a clip that holds bullets. Let alone any firearm where you hit things without aiming. Where do I get one of these magic beauties? Hollywood?
Self defense is a valid need. Fine. I can agree with that. I just have a hard time understanding what possible self defense scenario would require an assault rifle designed for combat.
The next argument is people own them because they can.
My issue with that is the ease at which some people buy them for hobbies means other people can buy them and shoot up schools or movie theatres.
And I really don't care what you find annoying or don't. I am expressing my opinion on the subject in a public forum. Those are my FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS!
If you find my opinions annoying no one says you have to read them or respond to them.
I also don't need you or anyone else to define what "I support gun rights" means to me.
Yeah... I believe there should be limits. People shouldn't be allowed to buy tanks or rocket launchers just because they can afford it or they admire the mechanical workmanship either.
My opinion is a gun that fires bullets in rapid succession that was designed for combat should be one of those limits as well.
We can get into stupid arguments about "everything can be lethal" or "criminals will get guns anyway" but when someone can buy a military grade assault weapon for a hobby, the fact is that some nutcase can also buy one and then shoot up a school or a workplace or a movie theatre and cause massive casualties.
My opinion is that you have no idea of the subject matter, otherwise you would know that the weapons being discussed are not fully automatic or select fire and are not designed for combat. It is further my opinion that before one attempts to discuss a topic, it is wise to educate oneself on the subject matter being addressed. We all have FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS!
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