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Old 12-18-2015, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Your not really sure what a true traitor is, are you ?
NO ONE at the time, not even the NORTH and their leaders, believed nor called them traitors... they were not fighting under the US Constitution, they were fighting under the CSA Constitution.. if they were traitors, they would have been SHOT or HUNG which yet they were not.. except for WEIRZ from Andersonville and he was hung for WAR CRIMES, not for being a traitor. In fact, during the turn of the century, there were large reunion celebrations where BOTH NORTHERN and SOUTHERN veterans met and celebrated (probably the fact that they lived through it).. you would not do that with a TRAITOR...

Calling CSA soldiers traitors is rewriting history..

I don't have a dog in the fight for monuments in New Orleans, if the leaders of that city want to remove them, its none of my business nor anyone's outside of LA.. My question would be, why stop there.. shouldn't all Confederate Soldiers graves, you know the ones with the CSA mark or Southern Cross be desecrated.. those are (mini) monuments after all?

Why is it so hard for some to believe that you can be proud of something someone does yet be ashamed at something else that same person does. We do it with our kids, we do it with our friends, yet we only have one set of emotions when it comes to the men (and women) from ~1860. We contend they were either Great Heroes who fought bravely for their states or they were evil slave owners who were the worst kinds of humans. Its obvious they were somewhere in between.

The ironic thing is that those brave men fighting for the North were no different than those brave men fighting for the South. Many were conscripted into the WAR by their governments. Had they lived across the river, they would have been wearing blue vs grey and would have thought no less of it. They were NOT fighting to END Slavery nor to PRESERVE Slavery, they were fighting because (big brother) told them to.. PERIOD.

It is a FOOLS game to look back in time ~150 years and judge people using the moral standards of today. Yet, there are a world of fools out there so when they start to play their game, its best just to extend them some rope and let them run free...
So true!! My great great great GF fought for the Confederacy because his state was attacked (we have letters from him dating back to this time). After the war, he received a war pension.


Looking from today's perspective, I don't see how they could justify the slavery portion but the fact is, they were attacked and fought against an overwhelming army...still, the North casualty were almost twice the casualties of the South.

 
Old 12-18-2015, 07:20 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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No one is "erasing history."
Sure.
It's quite Taliban-like.
 
Old 12-18-2015, 07:23 AM
 
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Sure.
It's quite Taliban-like.
Exactly!!!
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