Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
"The picture which emerges is this: not only was this a deliberate provocation, an ambush, but there is overwhelming evidence that the Turks used the information the Russians have provided to the USA about their planned sorties. The fact that the Americans gave that information to the Turks is bad enough, but the fact that the Turks then used that information to shoot down a Russian aircraft makes the US directly responsible. The USA is also responsible by the simple fact that there is no way the Turks could have set up this complex ambush without the USA knowing about it. Now, it is possible that some in the US military machine knew about it while others didn’t."
...probably. This administration always sides with Muslims.
Anything to feed into the complete nonsense of Obama being a muslim right? I mean hey, just ignore the million and one other indicators right? Cause you must follow the narrative.
"The picture which emerges is this: not only was this a deliberate provocation, an ambush, but there is overwhelming evidence that the Turks used the information the Russians have provided to the USA about their planned sorties. The fact that the Americans gave that information to the Turks is bad enough, but the fact that the Turks then used that information to shoot down a Russian aircraft makes the US directly responsible. The USA is also responsible by the simple fact that there is no way the Turks could have set up this complex ambush without the USA knowing about it. Now, it is possible that some in the US military machine knew about it while others didn’t."
...probably. This administration always sides with Muslims.
Note that the above is just some guy's hypothesis - not based on any evidence. I doubt that Russia reports each sortie to the US or that it includes any sort of flightplan ("we plan to fly back and forth along the border then briefly fly over the Turkish border spur.")
Not, the Russian planes have a signature the size of Road Island. The out of date F16s the Turks use are more than a match for the latest Russian planes. The US had nothing to do with the Russian Sopwith Camel being shot down.
...probably. This administration always sides with Muslims.
"This administration always sides with Muslims." ... why that dig? Who do you want the US to support? The US supports NATO ally Muslim Turkey who support the Muslim FSA against Muslim ISIS and against the Muslim Assad regime which is supported by Russia who are bombing the Muslim FSA and who also support Muslim Iran.
"This administration always sides with Muslims." ... why that dig? Who do you want the US to support? The US supports NATO ally Muslim Turkey who support the Muslim FSA against Muslim ISIS and against the Muslim Assad regime which is supported by Russia who are bombing the Muslim FSA and who also support Muslim Iran.
Turkey bombs Kurds. That's the only damn thing they do.
Not, the Russian planes have a signature the size of Road Island. The out of date F16s the Turks use are more than a match for the latest Russian planes. The US had nothing to do with the Russian Sopwith Camel being shot down.
Actually...no the F-16's are not a match for modern Russian planes. They are however a match for older bombers that are armed for air to surface combat, and taken by surprise.
Don't underestimate other countries, or you will encourage foolishness to occur.
Turkey warned Russia not to violate their airspace. Russia elected to ignore the warnings. I don't hold Turkey in high regard, but they do have a right to determine who uses their airspace and when.
At that part of the border Turkey bulges into Syria. Russian planes often cut the corner and flew cross the bulge and Turkey was waiting for them that time. Russia won't do that again.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.