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Old 12-20-2015, 01:59 PM
 
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These officers should have been put in prison for stopping him in the first place.
I'm going to assume they have a law there making it illegal to ride a bike while wearing earphones which is perfectly reasonable.
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Old 12-20-2015, 02:31 PM
 
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I'm going to assume they have a law there making it illegal to ride a bike while wearing earphones which is perfectly reasonable.
CA law states only one earplug in at a time.
https://calbike.org/bicycling-in-cal...ring-the-road/
There must be little crime in that neighborhood to be focusing on such violations.
Anyway look what their ineptness got them.

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Old 12-20-2015, 02:38 PM
 
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I'm going to assume they have a law there making it illegal to ride a bike while wearing earphones which is perfectly reasonable.
Yes, that is definitely a capital offense crime. Thank God these two goobers were there to take such a dangerous man off the planet and keep the rest of us safe from these hardened, earphone-wearing criminals.

LE is out of control in this country. This is just another in a long line of cases in point.
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Old 12-20-2015, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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I just don't get it. Why can't two burly police officers take down one skinny guy on a bicycle?

Are these officers being mass produced out of a silly putty factory???

It should never have gotten to that point, for crying out loud!

Aren't there any health standards for police officers anymore? One of them was huffing and puffing away...

Weren't the dead guy's hands cuffed before the first shot?

Most officers are wearing 40# of tactical gear which by a couple of studies makes them less safe.
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Old 12-20-2015, 02:48 PM
 
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I just don't get it. Why can't two burly police officers take down one skinny guy on a bicycle?

Are these officers being mass produced out of a silly putty factory???

It should never have gotten to that point, for crying out loud!

Aren't there any health standards for police officers anymore? One of them was huffing and puffing away...

Weren't the dead guy's hands cuffed before the first shot?
Omg did you even watch the video? The guys hands wasn't put behind his back and cuffed until 1 and 55 seconds after the cop who was shot ( probably the one you are complaining about huffing and puffing ) had shot the suspect three times.
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Old 12-20-2015, 02:53 PM
 
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Fine, but what does that have to do with the fact that there were three guns?

If you don't have a reasonable explanation for the third gun let me say we are at that point where I diverge from what one might assume would be my position on this...

I find it understandable that individuals who feel that they have been wrongly arrested to do so without violence, and I think that the police should understand that as well and use only that force that is reasonable to affect and arrest.

So I don't ascribe to the argument "you get what you deserve when you resist arrest."

BUT

If you are holding a gun and you are physically resisting arrest getting shot should definitely be on your list of anticipatable outcomes.

Personally, there are too many mitigating factors for me to start arguing guilt or innocence in this case. Like I said, there are far too many out and out cases of police brutality and wrongful deaths for me to get too wrapped up in this one.
If he had a gun he had every right to shoot them for assaulting him. He was minding his own business and two guys jump him. He has a right to defend himself.
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Old 12-20-2015, 02:57 PM
 
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Yes, that is definitely a capital offense crime.
It's not earphones they were arresting him for.
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Old 12-20-2015, 03:45 PM
 
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If he had a gun he had every right to shoot them for assaulting him. He was minding his own business and two guys jump him. He has a right to defend himself.
Pknopp, come on, please!

However unjust or unreasonable the stop you don't have a legal right to resist and you are never going to win the legal argument that you have the right to use deadly force to prevent just being arrested! So, please stick to the issue of whether or not the deputies were justified in the use of deadly force after they had disarmed Mr. Aguilar. That is where this case will be decided, although I think the likelihood of charges much less a conviction are pretty slim.
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Old 12-20-2015, 03:45 PM
 
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It's not earphones they were arresting him for.
There are unsolved murders and plenty of others things these two could have been doing outside of harassing some guy riding his bike earphones or not.

If they have this kind of time there are too many of them.
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Old 12-20-2015, 05:32 PM
 
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Law enforcement has always been very corrupt.

With the explosion of cheap, high quality video-cameras, internet-videos and the internet in general.....the festering sickness of LE is out there for all to see:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZBS_p-NVFI
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