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Old 12-20-2015, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Western Colorado
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Underpaid? They way kids act today teachers should get combat pay.

 
Old 12-20-2015, 07:53 PM
 
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Underpaid? They way kids act today teachers should get combat pay.
His aunt teaches first grade.
 
Old 12-20-2015, 07:56 PM
 
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Then I suggest all of the whiners go into the teaching profession if the money is so great. Why aren't you a teacher?
I am as part of my job. I teach respiratory, nursing, and medical students/interns/residents/fellows.

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Where is "here"?
NY

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you mean someone with a college degree might make more then the average income? GASP!
Lots of people have college degrees. They are working all year, working holidays, and working weekends to get their smaller paycheck.
 
Old 12-20-2015, 08:07 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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I have no issue paying a qualified and effective teacher well. They are worth it.
I do have an issue with tenure. I think we all had teachers who just weren't worth the air they breathed. For example. My school had Gym teachers who aside from gym were often Drivers Ed teachers or health teachers. They were also coaches. Maybe half of them bothered to have us open a textbook. In my opinion they weren't worth half their pay.
I had a history teacher whose claim to fame is that he fought in WWII. Never opened a book in his class either and no we didn't study history either. Tenure made him all but impossible to fire.
The benefit packages. As civil servants their packages should represent those of the people paying their salaries. That is an issue I have with all public servants including our elected reps.
 
Old 12-20-2015, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Sorry for the typos in the title... SNF and typing don't mix

I just found out my Aunt, a teacher of 25 years and who works for a rather small PSS (under 1200 teachers) in SoCal, has a base pay of $86,000 + $22,000 in benefits. She teaches a class of first graders, and has an assistant. She is in her seventies and refuses to retire until she maxes her retirement to 80-85% of full pay.

Is this underpaid?

There's all kinds of teachers. I work in a relief program. But I'm a teacher. Do I rate? At l6.00 an hour?
 
Old 12-20-2015, 08:15 PM
 
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I would think a teacher should make about 15% more than a local police officer or fireman.

How does that check out?
 
Old 12-20-2015, 08:24 PM
 
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Here in Missouri, my daughter worked her way through college, got her teacher's certificate and then decided that she couldn't afford the pay cut. She was an assistant manager at a Burger King, it paid much more.
 
Old 12-20-2015, 08:24 PM
 
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What I've heard was that high school teachers' salaries are higher than college professors. Is that true? Are elementary school teachers paid even more than high school teachers?
 
Old 12-20-2015, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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NY



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What part of NYS. Huge difference from NYC and upstate.
 
Old 12-20-2015, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I have no issue paying a qualified and effective teacher well. They are worth it.
I do have an issue with tenure. I think we all had teachers who just weren't worth the air they breathed. For example. My school had Gym teachers who aside from gym were often Drivers Ed teachers or health teachers. They were also coaches. Maybe half of them bothered to have us open a textbook. In my opinion they weren't worth half their pay.
I had a history teacher whose claim to fame is that he fought in WWII. Never opened a book in his class either and no we didn't study history either. Tenure made him all but impossible to fire.
The benefit packages. As civil servants their packages should represent those of the people paying their salaries. That is an issue I have with all public servants including our elected reps.
As a retired school principal, I have to tell you that tenure in most public school systems is nearly a moot point. It is not that difficult to build a case, and follow protocol, to get a teacher fired for just cause. Been there, done that...more than once.

Tenure is far more of an issue in colleges.
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