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Old 12-23-2015, 07:39 AM
 
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Many low-wage jobs are part time by employer design, e.g. to ensure employers do not have to pay overtime or Obamacare costs.
Exactly. You see it at Walmart, you see it at small publishing firms, major news outlets, everywhere. When I asked the publisher why she has interns and not paid assistants, she said she couldn't afford to pay anyone. Whatever happened to the conservative theory that "if you can't afford it, you can't have it"?
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Old 12-23-2015, 07:52 AM
 
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Exactly. You see it at Walmart, you see it at small publishing firms, major news outlets, everywhere. When I asked the publisher why she has interns and not paid assistants, she said she couldn't afford to pay anyone. Whatever happened to the conservative theory that "if you can't afford it, you can't have it"?
Well, it sounds like they can afford and have those interns.

Of course, the liberal mantra of "businesses need to be taxed heavily" will have consequences.
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Old 12-23-2015, 07:58 AM
 
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Well, it sounds like they can afford and have those interns.

Of course, the liberal mantra of "businesses need to be taxed heavily" will have consequences.
How can they afford them if they don't pay for them? Nice try with the taxes though. Taxes on big business is lower than it's been in a while and the "trickle down" gimmick still hasn't happened.
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Old 12-23-2015, 08:00 AM
 
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Well, it sounds like they can afford and have those interns.

Of course, the liberal mantra of "businesses need to be taxed heavily" will have consequences.
Often interns are free. they're doing it as part of their education,or to gain experience. Its a highly unethical thing to do for many businesses.

Some businesses do it right. Intel for example pays its interns (and pretty well for some jobs), and often hires them on as direct employees when they graduate.
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Old 12-23-2015, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Poor people are their own worst enemy. They breed poverty.





Yes, but our welfare system severely punishes work, education, small families and all other forms of personal responsibility.
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Old 12-23-2015, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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This is all correct, unfortunately the Obama Admin. doesnt want to end poverty and welfare, so we get things like Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing. If your a hardworking American trying to build a nice life in the traditional American sense, they dont care what you think or how hard you work to build that better life, they'd rather bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator under the guise of equality.


Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing: Obama's Latest Disaster | National Review Online
Municipalities are not impacted by this rule unless they apply for and recieve HUD funding.

Not sure how gathering more detailed statistics on the local population " brings down everyone to the lowest common denominator.

In any event, a community can sidestep the rule by not pursuing HUD funding. Wealthy communities have been doing so for 40+ years.
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Old 12-23-2015, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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This study is a little dated, but I suspect the findings still reflect today's conditions. You should read the entire article, but I'll summarize a few of their points;

Poor families work much fewer hours than non-poor.
Heads of poor families are much less likely to be married than non-poor.
Poor families have more children than non-poor.
Poor families have less education than non-poor.

They modeled five scenarios which addressed the four points above, all of which made huge reductions in the poverty rate. Full time jobs was the biggest factor by a wide margin.

If all poor people worked full time, poverty would decrease by 42%
If all poor people were married, poverty would decrease by 27%
If all poor people had at least a high school diploma, poverty would decrease by 15%
If poor families had the same number of children as non-poor, poverty would decrease by 13%

If you combine all four, poverty would decrease by 72%.

Maybe we should change our focus from welfare to the four scenarios above.

Work and Marriage: The Way to End Poverty and Welfare | Brookings Institution
More than 1/3 of people living in poverty are children.

Single heads of households are more likely to live in poverty/ deep poverty.

The least educated/ skilled adults are more likely to live in poverty/ deep poverty.

Factory employers outsource to cheaper labor sources.

Jobs in retail, food services and hospitality segments have historically trended part time. Hours and schedules can vary week to week making it more challenging to cobble together two part time jobs.

Employers hire undocumented workers and/ or apply for H2b visas.

Living at or beneath poverty level does not take the after effect of welfare benefits into consideration.

The poor all over the world tend to have more children than non- poor. (Saudi Arabia is an obvious exception) and they have been doing so since forever, without any semblance of welfare.

A substantial amount of poverty in the US is caused by lousy personal choices, including but not limited to:

A man and woman having unprotected sex without the emotional maturity and/ or financial resources to take responsibility for the outcomes

Men who walk away from family obligations,

Dropping out of school, not pursing marketable skills,

Substance abuse/ addiction,

Failure to live within one's means,

Blaming instead of taking responsibility.
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Old 12-23-2015, 11:12 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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This stuff seems like it should be common sense, especially the lack of education and having too many kids. Just look at countries like Mexico and parts south America, there isn't as much access to education and with the catholic thing people just crank out too many kids.

Here if you're making 8 to 10 bucks an hour and you've got 4 kids, do the math. I just don't get how people make it. I've always made good money, high 5 figures and we have no kids and while we're not struggling we're not rich either, after you put money in savings, pay the bills there isn't a huge amount left over, how the hell do you feed, cloth and put a roof over 4 kids heads...IDK...
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Old 12-23-2015, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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More than 1/3 of people living in poverty are children.

Single heads of households are more likely to live in poverty/ deep poverty.

The least educated/ skilled adults are more likely to live in poverty/ deep poverty.

Factory employers outsource to cheaper labor sources.

Jobs in retail, food services and hospitality segments have historically trended part time. Hours and schedules can vary week to week making it more challenging to cobble together two part time jobs.

Employers hire undocumented workers and/ or apply for H2b visas.

Living at or beneath poverty level does not take the after effect of welfare benefits into consideration.

The poor all over the world tend to have more children than non- poor. (Saudi Arabia is an obvious exception) and they have been doing so since forever, without any semblance of welfare.

A substantial amount of poverty in the US is caused by lousy personal choices, including but not limited to:

A man and woman having unprotected sex without the emotional maturity and/ or financial resources to take responsibility for the outcomes

Men who walk away from family obligations,

Dropping out of school, not pursing marketable skills,

Substance abuse/ addiction,

Failure to live within one's means,

Blaming instead of taking responsibility.
Thanks for writing chapter two of my OP.
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Old 12-23-2015, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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Yep..stable families contribute more to society than any other group.....it's what makes this country work!

It's also a big reason why there has been such an effort to undermine the family structure and the morality that holds it together.
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