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If Christ was never born to the virgin Mary, there would be no Christmas.
Without Christ, there is no Christmas. The entire reason for the celebration, we have today. Christ-mas. It wasn't just to have a party. Originally it was done on a more personal scale and not commercialized as today.
It is a birthday party for the baby Jesus.
That's what it is to you. That's not what it is to everybody. And from what I've read, Jesus was not born this time of year.
It hasn't worked particularly well in the state with a crime rate in the top half of the rankings and the #1 state for executions.
If you have not noticed, Government has become god to many. Texas is not the only place walking away from god. Texas Crime rate is lower than the other 2 big states. California and New York, who both have way stricter laws than that of Texas.
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Originally Posted by phetaroi
That's what it is to you. That's not what it is to everybody. And from what I've read, Jesus was not born this time of year.
That is what started it. Without the birth of Christ. There would be no Christ-mas.
It would just be a party to celebrate the winter solstice. The name Christmas, has meaning.
If you don't believe in Christ, I'm sure you don't want to be left out of all the fun and family. Who would want to feel left out. To justify it, you call it something else to you, to make you feel good about being a hypocrite.
If you have not noticed, Government has become god to many. Texas is not the only place walking away from god. Texas Crime rate is lower than the other 2 big states. California and New York, who both have way stricter laws than that of Texas.
That is what started it. Without the birth of Christ. There would be no Christ-mas.
It would just be a party to celebrate the winter solstice. The name Christmas, has meaning.
If you don't believe in Christ, I'm sure you don't want to be left out of all the fun and family. Who would want to feel left out. To justify it, you call it something else to you, to make you feel good about being a hypocrite.
I agree -- the Texas attitude is walking away from God. Braggadocio is so very common. It a different form of elitism.
If you have not noticed, Government has become god to many. Texas is not the only place walking away from god. Texas Crime rate is lower than the other 2 big states. California and New York, who both have way stricter laws than that of Texas.
That is what started it. Without the birth of Christ. There would be no Christ-mas.
It would just be a party to celebrate the winter solstice. The name Christmas, has meaning.
If you don't believe in Christ, I'm sure you don't want to be left out of all the fun and family. Who would want to feel left out. To justify it, you call it something else to you, to make you feel good about being a hypocrite.
I have read the Bible and studied it. Your Jesus would be ashamed of your attitude towards others.
That's what it is to you. That's not what it is to everybody. And from what I've read, Jesus was not born this time of year.
Nobody knows the exact date for sure. It's widely accepted that the 12/25 date was established to hybridize several religions into a single date. There are clues to the time of year though. WE know that Shepard's were in the fields tending their herds, and also Joseph and Mary were on their way to a census, both of which would not take place in Winter. I'd guess he was born some time in the Spring.
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Originally Posted by gwynedd1
Perhaps one of the reasons why we are having so many conflicts about religion is because government is all over the place. Christmas tree should not be in public schools? OK, who asked for public school in the first place? Why are these state run institutions?
That is beside the fact the "Christmas trees predate Christianity. Its the Viking Yule.
If I'm not mistaken the tree actually has roots back to the Romans, or possibly even the Greeks. One chronicle cites that 1000 years ago northern Europeans hung them upside down from their ceilings. These were also called Paradise trees.
The Texas Law clearly says, all displays must promote a religion of one or the other. This display did not do that. The time of year celebrates Christ.
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If the TX law actually says that, then it's liable to be held un-Constitutional. Their best bet would have been to grit their teeth & let the offending display stand. But then, it was never about the long term, was it? & as far as the courts go, I don't know that they'll parse promote a religion in such as way as to legally ban the offending display. As the display centered on the Bill of Rights, the court may not be willing to attack the Constitution that justifies their existence in US government.
This time of year celebrates Christ simply by tradition. The birth of Jesus has been grafted onto Dec., aided by the switch of the US economy to consumer based, back in the 1950s CE. Coca-Cola & the Nast cartoons probably have as much to do with the reification of Christmas in December as any religious impulse, Christian or no.
& besides, as New England & TX often like to point out, it was the WASPish segment of Christianity that had so much to do with extending the benefits of civilization to the Native Peoples wherever they might be found. & the Protestant churches - as I recall - were big on dumping tradition - sola scriptura, etc. So where in the Bible do we find any indication of the date of Jesus' birth? The pictures of Plimouth Plantation decked out in wreaths, poinsettias, caroling, Yule logs, eggnog, etc. always amuse. Those Pilgrims hardly celebrated their own individual birthday, let alone the birthday of Jesus. If it wasn't in the Bible, it simply didn't exist. Would that it were still so.
Its only a matter of time before Texas and other tea party states force Christian sharia law down our throats by amending their state constitutions.
They'd like to!
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