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Old 12-28-2015, 05:00 AM
 
Location: Florida
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What no one seems to know is that more migrants cross the border from US to Mexico, than vice verse. The net flow from Mexico to the U.S. is negative.


And there are more people coming from China and India than from Mexico. I'd be more concerned about them since they are more likely to take middle class jobs than Mexicans.

What Trump Doesn

Pew’s Ana González-Barrera recently estimated that the number of illegal Mexicans in the U.S. shot up to 6.9 million in 2007 from 4.5 million in 2000. Then the Great Recession hit, the job market tanked, the labor flow ebbed and some one million Mexican migrants returned home between 2009 and 2014—more than the number of Mexicans coming here.

The result, says Ms. González-Barrera, is that “the net flow from Mexico to the U.S. is now negative, as return migration of Mexican nationals and their children is now higher than migration of Mexicans heading to the U.S.” She estimates that there were 140,000 fewer Mexicans living in the U.S. in 2014 compared with 2009.


Mr. Trump may need a new bête noire. The Census Bureau reported in 2013 that immigration from China and India was higher than from Mexico. “The new prominence of Asian migration,” Muzaffar Chishti and Faye Hipsman of the Migration Policy Institute wrote in May, “may herald a significant and long-term transition in the demographics of future U.S. immigration.”

 
Old 12-28-2015, 06:25 AM
 
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What no one seems to know is that more migrants cross the border from US to Mexico, than vice verse. The net flow from Mexico to the U.S. is negative.


And there are more people coming from China and India than from Mexico. I'd be more concerned about them since they are more likely to take middle class jobs than Mexicans.

What Trump Doesn

Pew’s Ana González-Barrera recently estimated that the number of illegal Mexicans in the U.S. shot up to 6.9 million in 2007 from 4.5 million in 2000. Then the Great Recession hit, the job market tanked, the labor flow ebbed and some one million Mexican migrants returned home between 2009 and 2014—more than the number of Mexicans coming here.

The result, says Ms. González-Barrera, is that “the net flow from Mexico to the U.S. is now negative, as return migration of Mexican nationals and their children is now higher than migration of Mexicans heading to the U.S.” She estimates that there were 140,000 fewer Mexicans living in the U.S. in 2014 compared with 2009.


Mr. Trump may need a new bête noire. The Census Bureau reported in 2013 that immigration from China and India was higher than from Mexico. “The new prominence of Asian migration,” Muzaffar Chishti and Faye Hipsman of the Migration Policy Institute wrote in May, “may herald a significant and long-term transition in the demographics of future U.S. immigration.”
Still more than 5 million Mexican illegal aliens who need to go back home. Too; word is many illegal Guatemalans and so on from further south say they're "Mexican" to avoid being deported all the way home, just to Mexico.
 
Old 12-28-2015, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Still more than 5 million Mexican illegal aliens who need to go back home. Too; word is many illegal Guatemalans and so on from further south say they're "Mexican" to avoid being deported all the way home, just to Mexico.
ok, but this is about the migration of people across the border.
 
Old 12-28-2015, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Someone needs to ask Trump why his collective business interests applied for 1100 H2b visas over the past 15 years instead of hiring US people?
 
Old 12-28-2015, 06:32 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Still more than 5 million Mexican illegal aliens who need to go back home. Too; word is many illegal Guatemalans and so on from further south say they're "Mexican" to avoid being deported all the way home, just to Mexico.
5? That's probably CA alone.
 
Old 12-28-2015, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Mr. Trump may need a new bête noire. The Census Bureau reported in 2013 that immigration from China and India was higher than from Mexico. “The new prominence of Asian migration,” Muzaffar Chishti and Faye Hipsman of the Migration Policy Institute wrote in May, “may herald a significant and long-term transition in the demographics of future U.S. immigration.”

I will not question your facts; even though we know that politicians alter the criteria to produce their 'fact's' all the time. But we have a larger issue with how our Country is changing and who is going to be working to support all that come here. Automation/robotics are taking our jobs at an ever increasing pace - experts say one third of our jobs will disappear in the next ten years. It all boils down to where are the people that work and pay our taxes going to work; since we are all replaceable. So; show us one other candidate that addresses this issue?
 
Old 12-28-2015, 06:48 AM
 
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But those from india and china had papers
 
Old 12-28-2015, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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The result, says Ms. González-Barrera, is that “the net flow from Mexico to the U.S. is now negative, as return migration of Mexican nationals and their children is now higher than migration of Mexicans heading to the U.S.”
Good to know. So next time someone says self-deportation doesn't work I'll point them to this thread.
 
Old 12-28-2015, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Here
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Newsflash: Mexicans coming across the southern boarder ain't the problem these days. Ever heard of South America??

"But...but....there are more Mexican leaving the US than entering.....we don't have an illegal alien problem."
 
Old 12-28-2015, 07:16 AM
 
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Illegal immigration and H1bs are both responsible for taking American jobs and pushing down wages. The one world greedy capitalists and one world American guilt leftists make strange bedfellows. What the leftists don't realize is that their bleeding heart policies only make rich people richer and make everyone else poorer. The middle class comfort that their parents achieved, which is what enables them to sit around feeling guilty as opposed to having to fight to survive, will be gone soon so their 1.5 children won't have the privilege of taking interpretive dance classes and tofu farming.
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