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Old 12-30-2015, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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well, with BBIIIIIIIIIIIG government and people like you (no offense), free market, OF COURSE, does not exist.
Well when you have any laws, then you could say free market doesn't exist. That is why a business can't hang a sign in the window that says no blacks allowed or Jews or Christians or white blonde haired people or the elderly or so on.

That isn't big government, that is just government and laws that are enacted by the people of the country.
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Old 12-30-2015, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Well when you have any laws, then you could say free market doesn't exist. That is why a business can't hang a sign in the window that says no blacks allowed or Jews or Christians or white blonde haired people or the elderly or so on.

That isn't big government, that is just government and laws that are enacted by the people of the country.
agree to disagree.

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Old 12-30-2015, 06:36 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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That doesn't make a Subaru a gay car because cars don't have a sexuality or sexual orientation. They are just machines.
You can think whatever you wish. Even CBS News acknowledges the Subaru = gay connection.
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Old 12-30-2015, 06:37 AM
 
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well, with BBIIIIIIIIIIIG government and people like you (no offense), free market, OF COURSE, does not exist or does not work. bolded really doesn't matter, there are different types of people living in this world. Like I said, I don't agree with them, nor do I like them, but yes, I would want to leave them alone. I will NEVER ruin other people's businesses because I believe religious awareness is highly individual. Maybe you should consider giving people benefit of the doubt sometimes, not everybody uses religion as "excuse."
Bingo! Exactly!
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Old 12-30-2015, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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agree to disagree.

Sure, some of us support antidiscrimination laws, some of us don't, I think we know which ones we are.
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Old 12-30-2015, 06:42 AM
 
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Sure, some of us support antidiscrimination laws, some of us don't, I think we know which ones we are.
Some support employees' rights; some don't. I think we know which ones we are.

Business owners ARE employees. They pay FICA.
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Old 12-30-2015, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You can think whatever you wish. Even CBS News acknowledges the Subaru = gay connection.
No, CBS acknowledged which type of car is more common for someone who is gay to want to buy, that doesn't gay people only buy Subarus or that Subarus are only sold to gay people. It also doesn't change the fact that cars are machines and do not have a sexuality orientation. I would hope you could acknowledge that fact......
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Old 12-30-2015, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Some support employees' rights; some don't. I think we know which ones we are.

Business owners ARE employees. They pay FICA.
Employees cannot discriminate against customers, so yes, some of us support employee rights, some of us don't.
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Old 12-30-2015, 06:45 AM
 
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No, CBS acknowledged which type of car is more common for someone who is gay to want to buy, that doesn't gay people only buy Subarus or that Subarus are only sold to gay people.
No one said "only."
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Old 12-30-2015, 06:46 AM
 
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Employees cannot discriminate against customers
They can indeed legally refuse to sell product that violates their religious beliefs: bacon, pork, etc.

If you want things your way, work towards exempting business owners from FICA, etc.
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