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So does the 2nd Amendment state that you should walk around Target and other public spaces with an assault rifle hanging by your ever expanding waistline?
The second amendment doesn't say what you should do. It says what the government can't do.
So does the 2nd Amendment state that you should walk around Target and other public spaces with an assault rifle hanging by your ever expanding waistline?
first off the second amendment puts restrictions on the GOVERNMENT not the people. it means that the government cannot make laws to restrict the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
And how many of these so called "good guys with guns" stopped mass shootings
1. Most every mass shooting has occurred in gun free zones. So law abiding licensed to carry citizens are not armed where these shootings occur.
2. Licensed to carry citizens are not cops and have no obligation to intervene, especially if the circumstances are not optimal. Unless I have a clean shot, I'm not going to make myself a target any more than I already am.
1. Most every mass shooting has occurred in gun free zones. So law abiding licensed to carry citizens are not armed where these shootings occur.
2. Licensed to carry citizens are not cops and have no obligation to intervene, especially if the circumstances are not optimal. Unless I have a clean shot, I'm not going to make myself a target any more than I already am.
I don't blame you. But all I keep hearing is that if everyone had a gun they would take out these mass shooters.
I don't blame you. But all I keep hearing is that if everyone had a gun they would take out these mass shooters.
Take the Aurora shooting as an example.. How many people were in that theater? Chances are, there were several in there that had a concealed permit, but because it was a gun free zone, they couldn't bring their gun in. There is no guarantee that someone would have had a clean shot and no guarantee that the shooter would have been stopped, but because it was a gun free zone, he was guaranteed to not be stopped until LE arrived.
Take the Aurora shooting as an example.. How many people were in that theater? Chances are, there were several in there that had a concealed permit, but because it was a gun free zone, they couldn't bring their gun in. There is no guarantee that someone would have had a clean shot and no guarantee that the shooter would have been stopped, but because it was a gun free zone, he was guaranteed to not be stopped until LE arrived.
Of course they could because theaters don't have metal detectors and people aren't searched. Honestly, do you think everyone follows these laws or any laws they can get away with. And with this particular case I don't think anyone could have helped....too dark, too crowded
I don't blame you. But all I keep hearing is that if everyone had a gun they would take out these mass shooters.
Gun free zones are very attractive to mass shooters. If several people were carrying, there is a chance the the damage could be mitigated.
You don't hear much about shootings that would have been classified as mass shootings, but the shooter was shot before they shot enough people to be considered "mass" shootings.
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Of course they could because theaters don't have metal detectors and people aren't searched. Honestly, do you think everyone follows these laws or any laws they can get away with. And with this particular case I don't think anyone could have helped....too dark, too crowded
People that have their concealed carry permit, know the law and obey the laws of their state as they are applicable. It's not something you want to give up because you took a gun where you aren't supposed to have it. I see the proper signage, I turn around and walk away. Others stow their firearm in their vehicle until they leave. It is taken serious. As for how much light there was and how much of a crowd, you don't know what a person could or couldn't see. Your pupils dilate in extremely dark areas. Perhaps nobody would have had a shot, but we will never know now will we? All we know is how many were killed. We will never know if perhaps even one could have been saved.
Of course they could because theaters don't have metal detectors and people aren't searched. Honestly, do you think everyone follows these laws or any laws they can get away with. And with this particular case I don't think anyone could have helped....too dark, too crowded
Actually CCWs have been found to be much more law abiding than the average individual.
Photoed, fingerprinted, thoroughly background checked, paid fees, attended classes and passed firearm proficiency tests, then waited for weeks or sometimes even months to get, we don't want to jeopardize our licenses.
If you check with the FBI, you will find that seldom are CCW licenses revoked because of law infractions.
Licenses are immediately revoked if you are charged with felonies and some misdemeanors.
I'm an nra life member and tend to think that generalized open carry is a dumb idea. if you're going fishing at Kenai w/ bears about fine, open carry your .454 casull. But if you're going to the public library on Saturday morning, it is not too much trouble to ccw. I am a small guy, 5'7" 130 lbs, and can conceal my glock 19 under t shirt and shorts.
Open carry in an urban library, grocery store, etc is the equivalent of a gay rights activist wearing crothchless chaps. Hey, look at me!!!!
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