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Old 01-06-2016, 11:32 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Unlimited choices = Freedom
Your ability to choose from those unlimited choices = Liberty


They will limit your choices and still say you are free with liberty. We all allow it to happen right before our eyes, with everything in life today.


It will come to the point that government will only "allow" us to have a bb gun and tell us all we still have our 2nd amendment. And a choice. The choice to have a bb gun, or not. Take it or leave it.

Every law that involves arms, place upon the people, is unconstitutional and limits our freedom and liberty and the only thing that secures our freedom and liberty.

Government at any level has no say in what we the people make, distribute, keep, or carry and that shall never be infringed or you will die by the very arms you wish to restrict.
What the gun control nuts fail to mention is that the 2nd Amendment places no limits on what type of firearms, and I'm sure there were choices in those days too. It simply says, "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." To me, that is pretty all-inclusive.
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Old 01-06-2016, 11:41 AM
 
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He cries. He says every time he thinks about those Sandy Hook kids it makes him mad. So what, it makes everyone mad.
But the fact is, that nothing that congress proposed, none of the EO's that he ordered after Sandy Hook, and none of the EO's from yesterday would have prevented Sandy Hook.
If his actions are Sandy Hook inspired, why is he talking about stuff that would not have prevented that shooting?
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Old 01-06-2016, 11:44 AM
 
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The gun grabbers want to take guns away from ordinary people, but ignore the facts. Most gun homicides are in cities like Chicago, Detroit, etc. And mostly among black gangs. Do something about them.

And far more than the statistics would show since outside of these areas suicide is a very high on this list. Suicide just does not belong in any debate about public safety. If Japan is any guide, guns are simply a marginal phenomenon , being the first choice.

Suicides account for most gun deaths | Pew Research Center

Japan's suicide rate exceeds world average: WHO report | The Japan Times



So the real rate is a little over eleven thousand a year, most of which is you know where.
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Old 01-06-2016, 11:55 AM
 
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Well folks at least for the few months these laws are here even Obama can not have a gun based on his mental conditions.
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Old 01-06-2016, 04:33 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Exactly! Why is this so hard to comprehend? Commit a gun crime= hard time, cut down the appeals process, and stop coddling these fools that continue to commit violent crimes! But no, let's go after law abiding citzens, and make them jump through hoops, and expect us to cede our rights, because the dregs of society can't behave themselves!

Reality is, you are either a criminal behind bars, or a free person with access to all your rights.
There is no in between (ie, a felon cannot have assess to weapons... Ya, right. Only if they are behind bars, you idiots)
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Old 01-06-2016, 04:43 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I noticed in Obma's speech, where he feigned tears and emotion, "crying" about "the children"


EVIL will exploit good, every chance it gets and this is the perfect example.
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Old 01-06-2016, 04:47 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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What the gun control nuts fail to mention is that the 2nd Amendment places no limits on what type of firearms, and I'm sure there were choices in those days too. It simply says, "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." To me, that is pretty all-inclusive.

Hampering the peoples access to arms, is an infringement by the very government we the people told, you shall not have any say, pal. Yet, here we are and we are forced to like it, or meet the barrel of their gun.

How trivial.
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Old 01-06-2016, 04:49 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Well folks at least for the few months these laws are here even Obama can not have a gun based on his mental conditions.

I don't care who you are, dat dare is funny.
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Old 01-06-2016, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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And far more than the statistics would show since outside of these areas suicide is a very high on this list. Suicide just does not belong in any debate about public safety. If Japan is any guide, guns are simply a marginal phenomenon , being the first choice.

Suicides account for most gun deaths | Pew Research Center

Japan's suicide rate exceeds world average: WHO report | The Japan Times



So the real rate is a little over eleven thousand a year, most of which is you know where.
And anywhere from 60-85% of those are criminals killing other criminals, that's GOOD for society. Who wants an extra 9,000 living criminals on the streets every year? Democrats of course.
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Old 01-06-2016, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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What the gun control nuts fail to mention is that the 2nd Amendment places no limits on what type of firearms, and I'm sure there were choices in those days too. It simply says, "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." To me, that is pretty all-inclusive.
Yes it says that right after it says this:
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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,
So we are supposed to have well regulated militias in this deal. So where are the militias and who is regulating them "well"?

I'm assuming that nobody is "regulating" the F-troop style militias that we currently have.
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