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Old 01-07-2016, 10:22 AM
 
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"It’s like having a compromised immune system, but rather than compromised immunity, Muslims appear to have compromised stability. They can, and do, go jihad at the drop of a hat. Physician, psychiatrist, soldier, rich man, poor man, husband, wife, father, teen; there’s no single profile for the ones most likely to snap, other than that they’re Muslim."[LEFT]
Donald Trump: Carnage Recruiter - Taki's Magazine

This small quote is from this David Cole article linked above. Makes complete sense to me and explains the nature of our problems with frankly both Muslims and their apologists.


Until you define the problem and talk about it you can't solve it.
I have never read this author before but he seems to get it right.

Agree or maybe disagree? If this seems interesting please read the article and see what you think and give your point of view please.

Once again, Happy New Year.
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Old 01-07-2016, 10:42 AM
 
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So by that rationale all those mass rage shootings at schools, malls, workplaces, and movie theatres in the US that weren't by Muslims, must be due to the fact that Americans also have "compromised stability", whatever that is supposed to mean...
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Old 01-07-2016, 11:28 AM
 
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So by that rationale all those mass rage shootings at schools, malls, workplaces, and movie theatres in the US that weren't by Muslims, must be due to the fact that Americans also have "compromised stability", whatever that is supposed to mean...
We have a massive Muslim Terrorist issue around the world. They are destroying places they are landing in as guests refugees.

Next we have a problem with parents handing and training sometimes their mentally ill sons regarding guns that they would never be allowed to own on their own. Mental illness issue.

Next you have safe zones as a problem where lots of shootings happen because the shooters know other shooters won't already be on site to stop them.

Lastly there is regular criminality as well. Places like Democrat controlled Chicago has been like the movie Mad Max.

This thread is perhaps explaining or at least looking into our Muslim Terrorist issue around the world.
I consider them a cult personally. The Bible unlike the Koran doesn't motivate modern society to kill people that disagree with your faith outright, to rape others and expect in a Jihad death either an erect penis or 72 virgins if you kill yourselves taking out innocent people not worshiping your god.

Personally I would most like to see Muslims reform Islam to a faith without rape, sharia, murder and so forth.
If they don't behave there will be a need to handle the problem and that would not be good for especially Muslims IMO.
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Old 01-07-2016, 11:36 AM
 
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The problem with Islam is not that individual Muslims do evil deeds upon non-Muslims, but that they are condoned by their scriptures, and exonerated by their communities. To compound matters, their scriptures exonerate lying to non-believers, as long as it advances Islam.

But the worst aspect of Islam occurs when one believes he has violated Shari’ah and then goes out with a knife, or gun, killing innocent people (kafirs), in the hopes of dying as a martyr, and have his “ticket to Paradise” restored. This makes them unsuitable for inclusion within any civilized society. They are like mad dogs who can not be trusted.
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Old 01-07-2016, 11:38 AM
 
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Personally I would most like to see Muslims reform Islam to a faith without rape, sharia, murder and so forth.
That is an impossibility, since a Muslim accepts the perfection of Muhammed and his teachings. To reform is to deny, and thus become an apostate, subject to summary execution.
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Old 01-07-2016, 11:39 AM
 
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Old 01-07-2016, 11:45 AM
 
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So by that rationale all those mass rage shootings at schools, malls, workplaces, and movie theatres in the US that weren't by Muslims, must be due to the fact that Americans also have "compromised stability", whatever that is supposed to mean...
What are the common threads?

One group of mass shooters in the US are mostly mentally unstable people, the other group consist of Muslims terrorists, mostly Sunni.
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Old 01-07-2016, 11:47 AM
 
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The problem with Islam is not that individual Muslims do evil deeds upon non-Muslims, but that they are condoned by their scriptures, and exonerated by their communities. To compound matters, their scriptures exonerate lying to non-believers, as long as it advances Islam.

But the worst aspect of Islam occurs when one believes he has violated Shari’ah and then goes out with a knife, or gun, killing innocent people (kafirs), in the hopes of dying as a martyr, and have his “ticket to Paradise” restored. This makes them unsuitable for inclusion within any civilized society. They are like mad dogs who can not be trusted.

Because as it stands now Islam is a death cult that needs to be reformed if possible into a peaceful religion. As they approach western civilized nations who have patients they may convince their hosts that they have to act. Right now it has been a mostly one way deal here with the Islamic violence.
It is possible the other 80% of the world starts to treat them like we did the Nazis in the past. That would not turn out well for them IMO.
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Old 01-07-2016, 11:49 AM
 
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That is an impossibility, since a Muslim accepts the perfection of Muhammed and his teachings. To reform is to deny, and thus become an apostate, subject to summary execution.
If that is the truth of it all, then in the end it is a matter of time before gloves come off the west and elsewhere to end the problem. Would not be good for Muslims IMO.
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Old 01-07-2016, 12:33 PM
 
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That is an impossibility, since a Muslim accepts the perfection of Muhammed and his teachings. To reform is to deny, and thus become an apostate, subject to summary execution.
Muhammed reportedly was illiterate and dictated the Quaran to scribes.

Upon Mohammed's death, Islam broke into 2 major denominations, Shiite and Sunni. From there, endless variations and sects evolved. Haddiths evolved and were attributed to Mohammed long after his death.

All is subject to translation, interpretation and geo- political influence. Then there are the Fatwas. To me, a Fatwa is the outcome of what would Muhammed do, as determined by a so called Islamic scholar who is perceived as an authority in a local community.

Muhammed viewed and respected JC as a important prophet and there is only one God, not a trinity. He believed Jesus' words and intentions were corrupted by man. And he was likely onto something given the various gospels, translations and interpretations in existence. He failed to see his own teachings would be subject to similar hijacking.

Heck of a lot of popes were terrorists by current definition, with significant geo- political agendas. Some of those popes gave their armies the equivelent of " get out of hell, free" cards to excuse barbarianisms Committed in the name of JC.

Then there was the 30 year war in Europe which eclipses anything going on with ISIS.

Today, there are more than 40,000 Christian denominations in the US and probably twice that in the world. And some of them are led by serious whack jobs. We have the occasional minister in the US who gets his 15 minutes of fame when he proclaims death to gays and orders women to be subservient to men. Laws prevent this sort of thing from catching on.

Over in Africa, The Lord's Christian Army has committed tens of thousands of unspeakable acts of terrorism. Over in Uganda, a Christian country, executes gay men and seems to have no issue with the rape of women perceived as lesbian, just to show them what they are missing.

Not all Christians buy into the Trinity.

Many denominations prescribe a woman's attire, down to underwear. Some forbid birth control and/ or abortion.

Most reasonable people are quite capable of distinguishing differences in Christianity. Yet, many, too many, choose to perceive 25% of the world's population the same.

Politicians and warlords have used religion as a tool to to control and conquer the masses since forever.
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