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Old 01-10-2016, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
another????

obama has just FINALLY passed the bush peak of 07

here are the EMPLOYMENT NUMBERS DIRECTLY FROM THE BLS
total employed Jan 2001....................................135.800,00 0

total employed in oct 2007…........................……..146,743,000

jobs increase under bush 10.9 million from 2001 up till oct 2007

total employed in oct 2008…........................……..144,657,000


jobs lost start of recession oct 07 to oct 08...............2.1 million

total employed in dec 2008…........................……..143,338,000

jobs lost in 2 months after election.. from oct 07 to dec 08...............2.0 million


jobs lost in recession from oct 2007 up till jan 2009..... 4.1 million


Americans Employed, January 2009:.................. 142,187,000

total gain/loss under bush ENTIRE 2 TERMS ........... 6.8 million gain


dec 09 the ''peak'' of the employment losses.................137,792,000

one year after the ''perk'' ..............dec 10....................139,206,000

.....dec 11................................................ ...............140,790,000

.....dec 12................................................ ...............143,305,000

STILL NOT BACK TO 2007 LEVELS

.....dec 13................................................ ...............144,586,000

....may 14................................................ ..............145,868,000

STILL NOT BACK TO 2007 LEVELS

.....oct 14................................................ ...............147,260,000

FINALLY pass the 2007 employment picture

....dec 2014.............................................. ..............147,442,000

.....jun 2015.............................................. ..............148,739,000

....sep 2015.............................................. ..............148,800,000

total employed nov 2015..........................................149, 364,000

all according to the BLS
Employment Situation Archived News Releases


obama has had a pitiful employment 'recovery'
This Bush Great Recession is the worst economy in three generations.

It's been a tough climb to recovery. Especially with the GOP congress trying their best to push the economy back into recession.

Enjoy the fact that the president has spared you from the Bush Depression.


 
Old 01-10-2016, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
another????

obama has just FINALLY passed the bush peak of 07

here are the EMPLOYMENT NUMBERS DIRECTLY FROM THE BLS
total employed Jan 2001....................................135.800,00 0

total employed in oct 2007…........................……..146,743,000

jobs increase under bush 10.9 million from 2001 up till oct 2007

total employed in oct 2008…........................……..144,657,000


jobs lost start of recession oct 07 to oct 08...............2.1 million

total employed in dec 2008…........................……..143,338,000

jobs lost in 2 months after election.. from oct 07 to dec 08...............2.0 million


jobs lost in recession from oct 2007 up till jan 2009..... 4.1 million


Americans Employed, January 2009:.................. 142,187,000

total gain/loss under bush ENTIRE 2 TERMS ........... 6.8 million gain


dec 09 the ''peak'' of the employment losses.................137,792,000

one year after the ''perk'' ..............dec 10....................139,206,000

.....dec 11................................................ ...............140,790,000

.....dec 12................................................ ...............143,305,000

STILL NOT BACK TO 2007 LEVELS

.....dec 13................................................ ...............144,586,000

....may 14................................................ ..............145,868,000

STILL NOT BACK TO 2007 LEVELS

.....oct 14................................................ ...............147,260,000

FINALLY pass the 2007 employment picture

....dec 2014.............................................. ..............147,442,000

.....jun 2015.............................................. ..............148,739,000

....sep 2015.............................................. ..............148,800,000

total employed nov 2015..........................................149, 364,000

all according to the BLS
Employment Situation Archived News Releases


obama has had a pitiful employment 'recovery'
Are you seriously trying to pin off the worst year of the Bush crash (2009) on Obama? Get real. Bush handed Obama a bag of **** to deal with when he left the white house.

Obama just finished his 5th consecutive year of more than 2 million jobs being added to the economy annually. His private sector job growth is even better because 2010 saw a loss of 200,000 government jobs and 2011 saw a loss of 400,000 government jobs.

Here is a picture for all to see the Bush disaster and the solid recovery we have had under Obama.
Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

And here is job growth data going back to 1939.
Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

George Bush saw private sector job growth exceed 2 million for only ONE year, which was 2005. Obama has had private sector job growth exceed 2 million for five consecutive years. The only other president to pull this off was Clinton.

You can take nit picky glances of the labor force all you want. I just find it hilarious that you conservatives need to dig that hard to make your spins.
 
Old 01-10-2016, 12:48 PM
 
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This Bush Great Recession is the worst economy in three generations.

It's been a tough climb to recovery. Especially with the GOP congress trying their best to push the economy back into recession.

Enjoy the fact that the president has spared you from the Bush Depression.

the recession happened because of liberal policies put in place before bush...bush didnt help, but he got hammered by liberal policies such as free money mortgages starting in 1995


the republicans tried to help but where blocked everytime by dirty harry ried and the party of no, liberals in the senate
 
Old 01-10-2016, 01:07 PM
 
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the recession happened because of liberal policies put in place before bush...bush didnt help, but he got hammered by liberal policies such as free money mortgages starting in 1995


the republicans tried to help but where blocked everytime by dirty harry ried and the party of no, liberals in the senate

Tax cuts and trickle-down were pure GOP baloney. The Great Recession is its crowning glory.

And it's still their "policy."

 
Old 01-10-2016, 08:59 PM
 
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Tax cuts and trickle-down were pure GOP baloney. The Great Recession is its crowning glory.

And it's still their "policy."

what you see here is another liberal not willing to OWN UP TO their mess

globalist liberal policies going back to the early 90's are what caused the recession

the 'great recession' was due to liberal policies of offshoring jobs and easymoney housing


let this INFORM you, these problems stem from: 1993, 1995, and 1999 and you can thank the liberals for it, and most of it goes back to the clinton era. why because ECONOMICS run in 10(+/-4) year CYCLES and what we are facing NOW is in DIRECT RELATION to what happened back in the 90's

1993 OUTSOURCING throuth NAFTA(and the other 2 dozen 'freetrade agreements)----------------originally pushed by Brzezenski and his liberal puppet carter,,moved along by reagan's VP bush1----negotiated by another brzezenski puppet bush1--- passed in 1993 by the democrat controlled congress, pushed by clinton, signed by clinton-inceased with CAFTA by bush2--the consequence ...... 60+ million HIGH PAYING jobs have been lost, 2 trillion worth of debt from the lost wages.(and obama ahs increased it too, not only as Senateor Obama with OFTA, but also as potus obama..............hmmm)

1995 clinton (through his chief of HUD (Henry Cisneros and later his second chief andrew coumo)) eased the rules on obtaining mortgages allowing more 'exotic' mortgages and 'no-doc/low doc' mortgages---------------------------the consequence ......housing SKYROCKETED causing low inventories causing a 'not normal' increase in home prices, sellers got greedy, buyers got even greedier (looking to PROFIT in a skyrocketing market by flipping) and bought THINKING that prices would still increase and their ADJUSTABLE mortgage would pay it self off in MINIMUMAL years...EVEN THOUGH THESE INCREASES IN HOME VALUES WERE TOTALLY UNHEARD OF, AND MORTGAGE RATES WERE AT 40 YEAR LOWS( what did they think an adjustable mortgage gotten at 40 year lows would do in the term(3 months-3years) when it adjusted...of course it would go up, their CONTRACT even said after the term it would be 6% PLUS PRIME)))
For many potential homebuyers, the lack of cash available to accumulate the required downpayment and closing costs is the major impediment to purchasing a home. Other households do not have sufficient available income to to make the monthly payments on mortgages financed at market interest rates for standard loan terms. Financing strategies, fueled by the creativity and resources of the private and public sectors, should address both of these financial barriers to homeownership."
The above is the start of the mortgage meltdown: Clinton's National Homeownership Strategy


those are the two biggest causes of the great recession








then add these to the perfect storm:



1996 clinton signed The Telecommunications Act of 1996 (The Act was claimed to foster competition. Instead, it allowed industry consolidation whose actions reduced the number of major media companies from around 30 in 1993 to 10 in 1996, and reducing the 10 in 1996 to 6 in 2005.) causing MONOPOLIES, which can RAISE PRICES

1998 clinton does not allow drilling for OUR OWN OIL..the liberals say 'it will take ten years before we seee the oil'...guess what its been ten and more years

1999 Clinton DEREGULATES the banking industry

2000 clinton signs the China trade bill

2000 clinton signs the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000..(which paves the way for ENRON)

2000/1 clinton pushes to get china into the world bank

2002 bush and medicare part d...., bush giving the liberals more big government

2003/4/5 republicans try to reign in fanny and freddie...the liberal opposition leaders (barney frank and cris Dodd) say "there is nothing wrong with fanny/Freddie...its a witch hunt"........boy does barney have egg on his face now

07/09 liberals raise the min wage...adding to the perfect storm..the final straw of the perfect liberal storm



it aint the gop.....its the liberals (and liberals(ie progressives) can be from both the democrat party and the rino party) that have cost us
 
Old 01-10-2016, 09:18 PM
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the recession happened because of liberal policies put in place before bush...bush didnt help, but he got hammered by liberal policies such as free money mortgages starting in 1995


the republicans tried to help but where blocked everytime by dirty harry ried and the party of no, liberals in the senate
Republicans controlled both the House and Senate in 1995; 53 Senators and 230 Representatives. Try again..
 
Old 01-10-2016, 09:20 PM
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it aint the gop.....its the liberals (and liberals(ie progressives) can be from both the democrat party and the rino party) that have cost us


I see you posting multiple arguments about legislation that was passed by a Republican congress and then signed by a Democratic President.

Your failed logic isnt going to work.
 
Old 01-10-2016, 09:23 PM
 
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Republicans controlled both the House and Senate in 1995; 53 Senators and 230 Representatives. Try again..
and henry cisnero's (HUD Chief ) appointed by bill clinton changing the rules has ZERO to do with who is in congress

actually congress had no say in this

HUD is an executive cabinate level posting

this was all POTUS directed from 1995

Clinton had a NICE idea:..... help the poor and the minority to own homes

clinton had his directors of HUD :1) henry cisneros..then 2) Andrew Cuomo readjust the QUALITY STANDARDS, of the loads...fannie,freddie,ginnie(all GSE's) are the QUALIFIERS of ALL LOANS

by reducing the standard...people NO LONGER had to CONFORM to what was considered """too high of standards""" for the poor and the minority population....instaed of 20% down, having you payment less than 30% of your gross income, verifying income, credit history...everyone had the AVAILABILITY of getting a loan..even if they would not have ualified under the original rules

who is to blame...the government for mandating...the lenders for stupidly following what the government told them...the realtors, who wanted even bigger commisions..the sellers who whated to get thiers..and the buyers, for not knowing what they could afford

and yes a majority of the blame does go to the consumer and the seller too

fact the liberals changed the rules to MANIPULATE that more people bought home.. making it EASIER to get homes...causing housing to skyrocket

sellers wanted TOP dollar..even if it was UNREASONABLE

buyers had EASY CREDIT and LOWINTEREST LOANS with NO DOCUMANTATION to back it up...ie no- doc or low doc loans...to whom...the poor and self employed


what is the NORMAL yearly inflation rates for home...about 5% a year, so that a house will double in 20 years...what we got..houses tripled in less than 10 years

it was the government and the stupid buyers, with the greed of the sellers and their agents



anyone going to buy a home, SHOULD know what they can afford...ie if you make 50k..the TOP house would be 200k...not a 700k house

anyone buying a house SHOULD know that a mortgage payment is not just the principle and interest...but ALSO the HOI(home owners insurance) and the PROPERTY TAXES

anyone buying a house (or anything else on credit) SHOULD KNOW that an ADJUSTABLE RATE ..adjusts...and if the CONTRACT says 4% for the first 18 months then it will set to 6%+prime...dud its going to be ATLEAST 9% or more

anyone going for a mortgage SHOULD KNOW that the house is the collateral


when I bought my house I was OFFERED a 80/20, a 3 yr ARM,, and a few others to include an interest only...I KNEW what I wanted...a 20 or 30 yr FIXED with no pre-payment penalty

--------------------

a good consumer goes in educated

as a local clothing company once said..."an educated consumer is our best customer"


try again
 
Old 01-10-2016, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I see you posting multiple arguments about legislation that was passed by a Republican congress and then signed by a Democratic President.

Your failed logic isnt going to work.
nope...the hud rules, standards and regulations was NEVER even seen by congress
 
Old 01-10-2016, 09:34 PM
 
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I'm sure you have that cap due to conservative politicians. You can darn sure bet it wasn't Democrats who capped property taxes.
You're sure of that huh? California is a largely democratic state and passed prop 13 which capped property tax increases to 1% per year by a 65 to 35 margin.
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