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Old 01-16-2016, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Interesting thoughts, I appreciate. Do you have any insights about the present day anti-government militia groups? What are their goals?
I think it depends in the group and the specific issues they hold close to them. The Oath Keepers for example want individual rights to triumph even if it is the right to discriminate as a public official.
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Old 01-16-2016, 07:47 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Defend and repel what? So are you saying they will not defend America from ISIS and Boko Haram? Or that ISIS and Boko Haram are like our radicial militias because they are defending and repelling?

They the government, like the Paris Government has done their best to tell you it is their job, and the public not to arm themselves.

The key is, defending myself, my family and my friends from them, when evil rears its ugly head.
If everyone felt the same way, they would all be packing heat, so the militia can be immediate. Not wait for the police to sort out the casualties and take statements.
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Old 01-16-2016, 07:48 PM
 
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I think it depends in the group and the specific issues they hold close to them. The Oath Keepers for example want individual rights to triumph even if it is the right to discriminate as a public official.
I think you're right. I think the militia in Oregon is part of the 'sovereign citizens' group. Apparently they want to replace the local government. I don't think the local community wants that to happen.
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Old 01-16-2016, 07:51 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The "entire reason" for the Constitution was because the Articles of Confederation was totally ineffective!


Wrong. It was because the colonies had no representation in Parliament. No representation, no government exist. Only authoritarian tyranny exists, when evil exploits good.(2nd Amendment comes into play)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmhvZtmQIU4
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Old 01-16-2016, 08:01 PM
 
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The entire reason for the constitution was because they knew before a government was created, that they also could never be trusted.
You're making assertions based on your emotions & not on the historical evidence. Please see the following:

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The "entire reason" for the Constitution was because the Articles of Confederation was totally ineffective!
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From the day the federal government was created, it became the enemy of free people.
It's intent was to secure rights. It has been altered so much, they take rights, today.

The federal government was to govern the troubles between the states, originally. Not govern the people directly.
Do you hear yourself? From day one, the federal government was the enemy? Sheeesh, the drama!
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Old 01-16-2016, 08:05 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I think you're right. I think the militia in Oregon is part of the 'sovereign citizens' group. Apparently they want to replace the local government. I don't think the local community wants that to happen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpB3ILMRyG0


The Police State in America, violating civil rights of humans, is what has caused the rise of the new American Militia movement.


Peaceful Streets.
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Old 01-16-2016, 08:05 PM
 
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and be a part of what our government has started?

The intent of a militia is to defend and repel, not take the offense, with nukes.
Maybe you can explain the intent or goal/objective of the militia in Oregon?
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Old 01-16-2016, 08:12 PM
 
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Wrong. It was because the colonies had no representation in Parliament. No representation, no government exist. Only authoritarian tyranny exists, when evil exploits good.(2nd Amendment comes into play)
Dear, dear, me...

You don't know about the Articles of Confederation? How can you even begin to discuss the Constitution without knowledge of the original attempt to form a national government in 1777?
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Old 01-16-2016, 08:19 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Dear, dear, me...

You don't know about the Articles of Confederation? How can you even begin to discuss the Constitution without knowledge of the original attempt to form a national government in 1777?

Yes, and there was a Declaration of Independence, too. You didn't know about that? How can you even begin to discuss the Articles of Confederation, or the Constitution without knowledge of the original attempt to tell an armed existing tyrannical government, with no representation, 1776?
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Old 01-17-2016, 06:45 AM
 
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The Police State in America, violating civil rights of humans, is what has caused the rise of the new American Militia movement.

Peaceful Streets.
Are you claiming the new American Militia movement is a Civil Rights movement?

& that new American Militia members believe the tyrannical government must be confronted through armed force?

An example of the new American Militia movement in action is current events in Oregon?
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