Keystone-NO but Kenya-YES oil pipeline deal (gallon, wisdom, cost, dollars)

[burdell]

Originally Posted by engineman

On election day remember who vetoed Keystone.

I'll be thinking of those who started our endless wars of choice of no benefit to the US instead.

[crone]

China would have already financed it had they not been having money troubles of their own. Within the next 20 years, China will own Africa.

[michiganmoon]

Originally Posted by burdell

I'll be thinking of those who started our endless wars of choice of no benefit to the US instead.

Ouch what a scathing rebuke you just gave to Hillary.

I think quite a few Democrats may abandon her for being the war hawk that she is.

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by crone

China would have already financed it had they not been having money troubles of their own. Within the next 20 years, China will own Africa.

With the amount of corruption uncovered with the Kenya pipeline not even China would get involved.

[Old Gringo]

One question:

Does the Kenya pipeline project endanger the aquifer that provides irrigation for a big portion of Kenya's agriculture?

[michiganmoon]

Originally Posted by Old Gringo

One question:

Does the Kenya pipeline project endanger the aquifer that provides irrigation for a big portion of Kenya's agriculture?

Answer:

Yes.


You really don't want to venture into the realm of facts on this issue.



Questions:

Does oil traveling by train over the same aquifer threaten it?

The US has 2,500,000 miles of oil pipelines already...how many miles could we build in areas of "no" risk (including ones currently over aquifers?).

Is moving oil by pipeline or train safer?

Is oil moving from Canada to China OR the USA for refining going to cause more pollution?

[jojajn]

Are most important aquifers are not in Kenya.

[jojajn]

Originally Posted by michiganmoon

Answer:

Yes.


You really don't want to venture into the realm of facts on this issue.



Questions:

Does oil traveling by train over the same aquifer threaten it?

The US has 2,500,000 miles of oil pipelines already...how many miles could we build in areas of "no" risk (including ones currently over aquifers?).

Is moving oil by pipeline or train safer?

Is oil moving from Canada to China OR the USA for refining going to cause more pollution?

Crude oil moving through the US for export to China causes the worst pollution!

Where would have the Canadian pipeline’s oil end up once it reaches the Texas gulf port: China or U.S. gas tanks?

Gulf Coast (PADD 3) Exports of Crude Oil and Petroleum Products

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by michiganmoon

I agree.

More pollution in this world is a benefit for the US.

Shipping the oil to China to be refined where they pollute a lot more than us per barrel refined is awesome! Using more energy to get it to China or Texas with a greater chance of a spill is great too.

We should be green and let China refine all of the oil with more pollution!

The oil is still getting refined in the US, we already have plenty of existing pipelines that ship oil to refineries, along with rail lines. Which we then ship plenty of oil to China. Keystone wasn't going to benefit Americans like right wingers were being lied to by the GOP in their hollow promises that it would.

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by BruSan

You do realize that as of 2014 the bulk of it was already built and functioning, do you not?

What You Need To Know About The Keystone XL Oil Pipeline : NPR

Obama only had authority to cancel the cross-border link-up.

Forrest Gump said it best: Stupid is as stupid does.

Yes, I am well aware the US already has existing pipelines which is why we don't need the XL line because it serves no benefit to the US.