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Sooooo to suggest American Sailor's require superior deference in foreign water's is beyond fantastical thinking..especially dealing with ruthless nations.. The mere fact the secured release was done within 24 hours is miraculous given past history between US and Iran!!!!
People who look after such matters have commented on how the incident was played in Iranian media - more "See our ever-vigilant naval units offer assistance on the high seas" and less "Infidel aggressors violating our borders". Some David-Goliath schadenfreude, of course - but no suggestion that the situation was anything but accidental.
Which is interesting. The hardliners in Iran hate the nuclear deal and would love nothing more than an excuse to call it off. If their point of view isn't winning in the state media, there may have been a shift in influence.
There is no controversy except that an American navy vessel was in Iranian waters. The sailors were rescued by the Iranians and returned home.
Obviously this makes the warmongers unhappy.
LOL! The Iranians didn't "rescue" anyone.
I did 2 tours of duty on the Persian Gulf. I worked with patrol boats and my guess is that these Iranians approached these 2 vessels (for whatever reason, but they routinely approach US vessels). The Lt in charge called in the approach to his local Commander and explained the situation. After 3-4 minutes of discussion off the air the Commander told these guys to stand down and cooperate with the Iranians. The Iranians, seeing that we would not cause a problem, promptly claimed we were in violation of this or that and seized the boats and the crews claiming some violation of international waters, etc... Now they had a political pawn and a huge propaganda coup for their national TV audience.
I did 2 tours of duty on the Persian Gulf. I worked with patrol boats and my guess is that these Iranians approached these 2 vessels (for whatever reason, but they routinely approach US vessels). The Lt in charge called in the approach to his local Commander and explained the situation. After 3-4 minutes of discussion off the air the Commander told these guys to stand down and cooperate with the Iranians. The Iranians, seeing that we would not cause a problem, promptly claimed we were in violation of this or that and seized the boats and the crews claiming some violation of international waters, etc... Now they had a political pawn and a huge propaganda coup for their national TV audience.
I'm not aware of other nations that handed Iran something like $150 billion dollars and other concessions just to get them to do whats right, maybe I'm wrong but you can cite for me some examples..
UK, France, Germany, Russia and China for starters.
The US has about $2 billion of the estimated $100 billion of Iran's money. The rest has been frozen in central banks all over the world.
In case you didn't know, when a new president is elected in November, that person sits in on all meetings, etc., and is briefed on what is happening in the country so they will be up to speed when they actually take office in January.
Reagan had plenty of time to come up with a solution, and he did. He gave weapons to Iran in exchange for the hostages.
Kinda embarrassing, huh? No 'strength' needed. "I'll trade ya!"
He did manage to get it up to invade one of our most threatening dire enemies, though...Granada. LOL
Why is it embarrassing to not be deceptive and manipulative, while pretending to be ole' honest Abe?
People who look after such matters have commented on how the incident was played in Iranian media - more "See our ever-vigilant naval units offer assistance on the high seas" and less "Infidel aggressors violating our borders". Some David-Goliath schadenfreude, of course - but no suggestion that the situation was anything but accidental.
Which is interesting. The hardliners in Iran hate the nuclear deal and would love nothing more than an excuse to call it off. If their point of view isn't winning in the state media, there may have been a shift in influence.
There's is nothing to suggest it WAS anything but accidental ..so willing to bet the debriefing and investigation will get to the bottom of what really happened..however..Iran will suggest thru their Gov't media controlled sites to portray whatever makes them appear +...
If 10 lives get returned to US safe zone..I say Applaud applaud!! Without any venue to to negotiate such a return...Would no doubt become like the British detainment by Iran years ago!!
Reagan gave Iran weapons in return for hostages. Perhaps not the best example.
As for Bush, well - remember the Hainan island incident? "Please give us our airmen - and perhaps also the plane? - back" was exactly the GWB administration reaction. Of course, the Chinese strung them along for 10 days before returning the airmen, several months before returning the aircraft (in pieces) and the GWB administration obligingly paid $34,000 for the cost of feeding and housing the crew in China. That enough of an indicator?
(Incidentally, how do you guys imagine it would look if an Iranian navy vessel was encountered in US waters? Friendly handshakes?)
I thought I must be the only person to remember the plane incident. I mean that went on so long that I didn't think we would ever get that plane back.
I am so glad adults were in charge instead of the children that Conservatives have become. No telling what would have happened if Trump or Cruz would have been in charge.
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