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Old 01-17-2016, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Here in Oklahoma, the state is starting to inspect the wastewater disposal wells and is fining the oil companies now if the state feels if the disposal wells do not pass whatever standards they have set (in regards to causing earthquakes).

Pretty much even the staunch conservatives are now begrudgingly willing to admit that these quakes are due to the disposal wells. Mostly because there weren't any of these quakes until the last oil boom started with the horizontal drilling circa 2008 in these shale plays.
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Old 01-17-2016, 06:38 PM
 
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So, basically what you are saying is yes, fracking does cause earthquakes.
What I'm saying is injecting wastewater into the ground for disposal has been linked to earthquakes. This does not have anything to do with the extraction process or fracking as it is commonly called. There are other solutions for the management of the wastewater and the industry will need to come up with a solution. If I were to guess recycling it will be at the top of the list in particular in areas where the availability of fresh water is a concern.
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Old 01-17-2016, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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What I'm saying is injecting wastewater into the ground for disposal has been linked to earthquakes. This does not have anything to do with the extraction process or fracking as it is commonly called. There are other solutions for the management of the wastewater and the industry will need to come up with a solution. If I were to guess recycling it will be at the top of the list in particular in areas where the availability of fresh water is a concern.
That is a process of fracking....so thus fracking is at fault for this. Obviously things could change, like not injecting wastewater into the ground when fracking.
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Old 01-17-2016, 07:38 PM
 
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That is a process of fracking....
In the same sense burning gasoline in large pits was also a process of refining kerosene when they first started refining oil. It's not a necessary process for the extraction of gas, they are already recycling this water or using other means of disposal in some areas. It's a minor hurdle that will be overcome by some other means, in addition to the earthquake concerns it's also a very large expense because it has to be transported from the gas well to the disposal well. As I said recycling in particular where fresh water availability is a concern is going to top the list. It's entirely possible they may even make it profitable as industry so often does with the waste they generate such as the gasoline example.
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Old 01-17-2016, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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YES it does. Only a fool would think otherwise and they are in no short supply.


When I was a kid this very subject was hotly debated.


Turns out it was just a sucky b-movie...





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_NqGsH4hAA
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Old 01-17-2016, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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In the same sense burning gasoline in large pits was also a process of refining kerosene when they first started refining oil. It's not a necessary process for the extraction of gas, they are already recycling this water or using other means of disposal in some areas. It's a minor hurdle that will be overcome by some other means, in addition to the earthquake concerns it's also a very large expense because it has to be transported from the gas well to the disposal well. As I said recycling in particular where fresh water availability is a concern is going to top the list. It's entirely possible they may even make it profitable as industry so often does with the waste they generate such as the gasoline example.
But it is a part of the current process of fracking....
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Old 01-17-2016, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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I firmly believe it does. I also want to know what fracking mud is made of! What are they pumping into the earth?
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Old 01-17-2016, 08:52 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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I firmly believe it does. I also want to know what fracking mud is made of! What are they pumping into the earth?



A lot of nasty chemicals
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Old 01-17-2016, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I firmly believe it does. I also want to know what fracking mud is made of! What are they pumping into the earth?
all they are 'injecting' is water


Petroleum engineers have used fracking as a means of increasing well production since the late 1940s. Fractures can also exist naturally in formations, and both natural and man-made fractures can be widened by fracking. As a result, more oil and gas can be extracted from a given area of land.

every oil well 'injects' water.....

and they 'can' use salt water....which would be good with the world ending sealevel rise

the water they are 'injecting' ...water and sand
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Old 01-17-2016, 09:19 PM
 
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I firmly believe it does. I also want to know what fracking mud is made of! What are they pumping into the earth?


https://fracfocus.org/chemical-use/w...icals-are-used
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