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More taxes for rich is an option. But raising the minimum wage will likely just cause everyone else to get paid more commensurately and then you're back to square one as $15 will become the new $9. Aka inflation. Who would work a harder job than McDonald's if it paid the same? There has to be SOME incentive for people to do more difficult work.
There is nothing that requires raises for others just because the minimum wage went up.
At one job I was paid slightly above minimum wage and when the minimum wage went up I did not receive a raise to stay above minimum.
There is nothing that requires raises for others just because the minimum wage went up.
At one job I was paid slightly above minimum wage and when the minimum wage went up I did not receive a raise to stay above minimum.
I understand that but say you're working a job now that's reasonably demanding at $15/hr currently. If they raise the minimum wage to $15, well now you're on par with McDonalds workers. What's to stop people from quitting their jobs to work for McDonalds or in similar basic positions which require very little mental and physical exertion and involve minimal amounts of stress? In other words there has to be an incentive to work more difficult jobs.
More taxes for rich is an option. But raising the minimum wage will likely just cause everyone else to get paid more commensurately and then you're back to square one as $15 will become the new $9. Aka inflation. Who would work a harder job than McDonald's if it paid the same? There has to be SOME incentive for people to do more difficult work.
Even if that happens it is still a good thing for society because the poor make gains on the rich. America is sick of the CEOs being the only people getting a raise. This **** has to end.
Look what happened in France and other European countries that felt they could just keep taxing the rich more and more, in fact it is happening in some states no where companies are moving to other states, and considering corporations are moving their international headquarters out of the country already I do not see raising their taxes helping.
You want to improve middle class and lower income people's lives, you have to lower the bar to entry into businesses, let them start their own businesses without taking on huge financial burdens just to open the doors. This will create competition in the market place, create more jobs, and improve demand for workers thereby improving income levels. However people would rather have government solve all their problems and make more and more laws meant to affect corporations but killing small businesses before they even get going.
We have pursued your theory for 30 years and it isn't working. No more. America needs a raise and since the private market is failing to provide it the government must provide it.
I understand that but say you're working a job now that's reasonably demanding at $15/hr currently. If they raise the minimum wage to $15, well now you're on par with McDonalds workers. What's to stop people from quitting their jobs to work for McDonalds or in similar basic positions which require very little mental and physical exertion and involve minimal amounts of stress? In other words there has to be an incentive to work more difficult jobs.
The incentive is this: at a job other than burger-flipping, there is a chance to take on more responsibilities, move into a more responsible position, and make more money.
There are only so many manager slots for a burger-flipper to move into.
The incentive is this: at a job other than burger-flipping, there is a chance to take on more responsibilities, move into a more responsible position, and make more money.
There are only so many manager slots for a burger-flipper to move into.
Maybe for some positions but far from all. With smaller companies for example there isn't always much room for growth. Same with a lot of blue collar positions.
No it wasn't. Hourly wages have always been market driven. Then came socialist inspired policies that deny the reality of supply and demand. Now do you understand,
Right... so regardless to what you just said, which was essentially the kind of response you'd get at a Republican debate (it doesn't have anything to do with what was said prior, but stupid people will just eat it up), but unlike the current state of journalism, I don't intend to pretend like that's ok.
The minimum wage law passed by FDR was intended to create a national requirement for what an employer must pay their employee so that they can live off that money. You'd probably call it a socialist law, but regardless of that meaningless point, the minimum wage law was intended to create a living wage. Now, rather or not you think employers should be able to pay their workers **** is an different topic entirely, but your opinions do not shape reality.
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I support a "nominal" increase too.
$9.00 or so would be fair. However, this $15.00 an hour is crazy in most circumstances. A politician who supports that is doing so more for votes than sound long term policy.
That's where I'm at, $7.25 is too low but at a national level I think around $10. If high COL areas prefer higher then go for it and live with the consequences.
We have pursued your theory for 30 years and it isn't working. No more. America needs a raise and since the private market is failing to provide it the government must provide it.
How has this country pursued this theory? The fact that you think it has shows that you have no idea what you are talking about. If you actually do research this country was built on my theories. Each time we went into an economic downturn, it was brought out by the growth of small business. Over the last 30 years the government with their corporate buddies have went out of their way to make it harder for competition to be kept out of the market, small businesses face many of the same hoops that corporations do, the difference is corporations can afford to wait it out until their competition is gone, then raise their prices to get their costs back. Look it up there is a study that 10 manufacturers are responsible for just about everything in a grocery store, and that is where our government has taken us.
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